R56 Non-functional Hood Scoop
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Non-functional Hood Scoop
This might have been a discussion of past threads but I couldn't find it.
Is anyone else bothered by the non-functional hood scoop. It bothers me to no end. I always liked the MINI's no apologies approach (harsh ride for a reason, short wheelbase etc.), and I think that's why I'm so disappointed with the scoop.
Does anyone have information if it will become functional with the JCW package?
Vladimir
2006 MCS
Is anyone else bothered by the non-functional hood scoop. It bothers me to no end. I always liked the MINI's no apologies approach (harsh ride for a reason, short wheelbase etc.), and I think that's why I'm so disappointed with the scoop.
Does anyone have information if it will become functional with the JCW package?
Vladimir
2006 MCS
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This might have been a discussion of past threads but I couldn't find it.
Is anyone else bothered by the non-functional hood scoop. It bothers me to no end. I always liked the MINI's no apologies approach (harsh ride for a reason, short wheelbase etc.), and I think that's why I'm so disappointed with the scoop.
Does anyone have information if it will become functional with the JCW package?
Vladimir
2006 MCS
Is anyone else bothered by the non-functional hood scoop. It bothers me to no end. I always liked the MINI's no apologies approach (harsh ride for a reason, short wheelbase etc.), and I think that's why I'm so disappointed with the scoop.
Does anyone have information if it will become functional with the JCW package?
Vladimir
2006 MCS
One thing it can used for, is to throw some cool air on the turbo.
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Yes others are bothered. That's not changing anything though.
No, it will not be functional (at least in terms of the way you want it to be functional).
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To really help, I think, the scoop would have to provide airflow to the intercooler, radiator, or intake.
Another "poser" feature are the side vents (aka repeaters). They're not open anymore, they're just badges.
But, there's a long history tradition of this.
Take a look at a 60's Mustang, or the latest designs See those indented bits on the side with what you could consider to be a scoop at the back?
Well, that's what they are. Non-functional scoops. The Mustang concept care was a rear-engine vehicle, and the scoops were functional. They carried over as a design element.
Concept:
http://www.automag.be/IMG/ford_musta...t_car_1962.jpg
Reality:
http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/showro...5/stangbig.jpg
http://metamedia.stanford.edu/imagebin/2005-Mustang.jpg
Even the 2007 Shelby Mustang GT has hood scoops -- that aren't functional either:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116496
"A lower front fascia with a brushed-aluminum grille — minus foglights — sits below a Cobra-inspired, non-functional hood scoop."
I don't mean to hold up Ford as a paragon of design, but rather to illustrate that this is common, and the days of form strictly following function are long gone, and left a long time ago. Now cars look they way the marketers want them to look.
Heck, do you think the fins on a 50's Buick or the much-loved Harley Earl side vents really worked?
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MINIUSA has said that it lets air in, but those who've seen it say it's blocked.
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#10
I've seen the car in person at the Detroit Auto Show. The scoop really is blocked off by a plate that has surface detailing to match the other front grilles.
I'd prefer to have the scoop be functional, but in the end I'm fine with it being "just" an aesthetic differentiation to the Cooper. I'm much more interested in the front mount intercooler than a scoop-fed intercooler of the R53. That said, I wouldn't count out the aftermarket putting the scoop to good use by removing the blocking plate and routing it somewhere effective.
I'd prefer to have the scoop be functional, but in the end I'm fine with it being "just" an aesthetic differentiation to the Cooper. I'm much more interested in the front mount intercooler than a scoop-fed intercooler of the R53. That said, I wouldn't count out the aftermarket putting the scoop to good use by removing the blocking plate and routing it somewhere effective.
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The S model is supposed to have a scoop. Functional or not.
Heck I may even mess up the ground on the stereo system just so I get the altenator whine to make up for missing the supercharger whine
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Speaking as a past turbo charged car owner any additional air is better than none but, if it is just for looks then I suppose Ill have to get over it. My '07 will be here soon and I can think of many other things I'd rather worry over. (modifications!)
Last edited by Trinity07; 02-09-2007 at 10:42 AM. Reason: typo
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Remember the port holes on Buicks? (Yeah, you're young, I'm old ) 55 Buicks had em with LIGHTS inside as an option. Some models had 3 on a side, upper end models had 4.
I'm "bothered greatly" by the death toll in Iraq. By our open borders.
We're talking about a HOOD SCOOP HERE.
Oh, you girls! Isn't it time to get daddy's credit card and head over to Macy's??
This NAM group needs a good enema to clear out the whiners.
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Anybody that's "bothered greatly" by this non functional scoop needs to GET A LIFE.
Remember the port holes on Buicks? (Yeah, you're young, I'm old ) 55 Buicks had em with LIGHTS inside as an option. Some models had 3 on a side, upper end models had 4.
I'm "bothered greatly" by the death toll in Iraq. By our open borders.
We're talking about a HOOD SCOOP HERE.
Oh, you girls! Isn't it time to get daddy's credit card and head over to Macy's??
This NAM group needs a good enema to clear out the whiners.
Remember the port holes on Buicks? (Yeah, you're young, I'm old ) 55 Buicks had em with LIGHTS inside as an option. Some models had 3 on a side, upper end models had 4.
I'm "bothered greatly" by the death toll in Iraq. By our open borders.
We're talking about a HOOD SCOOP HERE.
Oh, you girls! Isn't it time to get daddy's credit card and head over to Macy's??
This NAM group needs a good enema to clear out the whiners.
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And for what point? The engine is water cooled. The hood scoop and repeaters, functional elements of the R53 are now visual design artifacts of the R56. They serve as ornaments on the R56 MINI, nothing more.
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The scoop is funtional.
It functions as a delinetor between models.
For those who don't like it -- get the Cooper model or keep your another differently functional scoop model.
By the way, for those who don't like it I'd love to hear what they think would be appropriate visual elements to differentiate the 2 models.
Name it!
Criticism that is distructive is useless and says more about the person delivering it and less about the subject matter.
Criticism that is constructive is never a waste of time and also says much about the person delivering it.
Put your ideas (not your disgust) where your keyboard is.
It functions as a delinetor between models.
For those who don't like it -- get the Cooper model or keep your another differently functional scoop model.
By the way, for those who don't like it I'd love to hear what they think would be appropriate visual elements to differentiate the 2 models.
Name it!
Criticism that is distructive is useless and says more about the person delivering it and less about the subject matter.
Criticism that is constructive is never a waste of time and also says much about the person delivering it.
Put your ideas (not your disgust) where your keyboard is.
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I do not think, in todays market in the US, a badge is enough to get some buyers to dole out the extra money for the more musclular model (I do not know about other markets.) Some people need the external distinction.
If a badge was enough then that would be the case for all other manufacturers. It is not, there is always something that distinguishes models.
That's reality (or at least reality as I understand it.)
Maybe in a idealic world a badge would be enough, but people like visual touchstones.
A badge is all that is necessary to distinguish the models but isn't enough to sell cars.
If a badge was enough then that would be the case for all other manufacturers. It is not, there is always something that distinguishes models.
That's reality (or at least reality as I understand it.)
Maybe in a idealic world a badge would be enough, but people like visual touchstones.
A badge is all that is necessary to distinguish the models but isn't enough to sell cars.
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Matt (DrOBNXS)? Imput here? Want to be one of the first (and apparently ONLY) people to produce this with me? It will be done.