I don't think we had our beta software out in March. If possible, check to see what version your ScanGauge is running on. If it's 4.09C then that's the Beta version, if it's something else it probably needs an upgrade.

PM me and we can work out getting your unit upgraded if need be.

 

Just sent mine out! Can't wait to get it back soon

 

I use my scangage on my other vehicles, will this beta software still be compatible?

 

In short, it should be fine, but we know that this beta software does have issues on a small number of specific vehicles (Hybrids mostly).

In order to get these new MINI based gauges to work, we had to open up the data filters quite a bit. We've found that with Hybrid vehicles, their hybrid battery systems add a ton of additional data that regular non-hybrid don't have to the data bus. Thus, you might find with this beta version may lock up when you connect it to a hybrid vehicle because the ScanGauge is simply overwhelmed with data due to the relaxed filter necessary to work on MINI.

Most pre 2008 (non-hybrid) vehicles shouldn't have an issue. I'd imagine most non-hybrids after 2008 should work just fine also, but the newer the vehicle the more data there is likely to be on the bus whether it's a hybrid or not.

I know most of the people who are getting the beta version are just using it on their MINI's, but if anyone can try the beta version on any other vehicles to let us know if there are any issues with non-MINI's it would be valuable.

 

Is there anywhere I can purchase one with the beta software preloaded?. I have a new mini and was going to purchase anyway.

 

Sounds good. I'll send you an email and I can try it on my other vehicles.

 

Contact me at XGauge@Linear-Logic.com when you're about to order, and we can coordinate to make sure your new unit has the MINI Beta version installed before it ships.

 

Received mine back from James today. Seems to work fine so far. Have not driven very far yet.

DOC

 

The main thing I was interested in was oil temp. It looks like it is calibrated pretty well. Before I started it after sitting overnight, EOT was 75 F when ambient was 73 F. I just don't know how linear it is, or whether the sensor is located where the oil is at its hottest. I have seen oil temps up to 225 F, so far, though this has only included short highway stints. At this point, I would not be surprised to see 240+ F for longer high speed highway runs in 90 degree ambient temps with the AC on.

Mobil 1 0W-40 is supposed to be fine at this temp, but 210 F is where I have always seen peak power and efficiency on the dyno with many similar sized, normally aspirated race motors.

DOC

 

Does anyone know what all the abbreviations stand for on the scanguage now? I used o have boost on there now after the update I don't see it.

 

I know this is of topic but if I buy the scangauge unit that's listed on autozones site will I be able to read boost and everything that is relevant to a
Turbo car?

 

AutoZone ScanGauges run 4.06 software, so they will be able to read boost if the vehicle reports a Manifold Absolute Pressure reading, which I believe MINI's do. AutoZone SG's however do not have the Beta Software that can be used to report a few extra gauges like Engine Oil Temperature and Fuel Pressure.

Prior to 4.0 software, we could do boost with an XGauge that manipulated the MAP reading where you had to adjust the MTH portion of the XGauge to remove the ambient pressure from the MAP reading to receive boost. It was somewhat tedious, but none the less possible. Since then we added a feature within the ScanGauge that will automatically do this. Just find the Advanced settings menu under the setup section and change MAP to BST. From there the ScanGauge will report boost instead of MAP, and it will adjust for any changes in atmospheric pressure automatically if you have the key on/Engine off for a few seconds while the ScanGauge is connected.

 

So if I buy the gauge from autozone can I send it out to you guys to get the beta software? Also can they read air fuels or do I need a dedicated wideband for it.

 

Yea, if you send it into us we can upgrade it for you. The beta version has an Air to Fuel ratio built in that's specific to MINI. You still might be able to get Air to Fuel ratio's with the XGauge feature without having the beta version using our general XGauges for CANSF vehicles which may be just as accurate. Just a note, the beta software is for 2008+ MINI's.

 

Great ill buy one and if it doesn't come up I'll get in contact with you to send it out thanks for the help much appreciated.

 

James,

I wonder what to make of the air/fuel numbers. Under throttle, the numbers make sense, 12.2-14.3, etc. However, off-throttle, the SG generates three digit numbers without a decimal point.

Can you explain?

"Water Temp" and" Engine Temp" run very close, rarely more than 3 degrees apart. WT seems to be more volatile, always leading the change in one direction or the other.

BTW, the oil temp numbers seem to make sense. I have seen up to 230, so far.

Thanks!

DOC

 

Excited to get my SGII back, just got there today! Can't wait to see how it works!

 

Most likely what's causing this is that when you take your foot off the throttle long enough, fuel flow will stop. Since there is no fuel, air/fuel will become a large number because fuel is essentially 0. In reality the A/F is infinite if the fuel value is 0, but since these sensors have a specific sensor range, they just max out to the highest possible value. You'll probably notice MPG will read 9999 along side the large A/F reading. Same principal affects the MPG readings as well.

 

Thanks!

DOC

 

Just got my SGII back and it's not even working. Just kidding, it works fantastic and absolutely worth it sending it in to get it updated. Thanks James!

 

James,
thanks for the quick turn around. Works great. Still trying to figure it all out.

However, now that I have engine oil temperature, does anyone know what a "too high" is for oil and at what temp can you "romp" on the engine?

 

My oil temp shows when fully warm anywhere from 219-228. My engine temp shows 215-229.

 

Oil temp is usually at 230F and water at 220F. Laying into the turbo going uphill on a long grade will see the oil temp hit 240F with the water temp at no more than 224F.

Been running the beta version for about 6 months now....totally "cool"!

 

Hey guys, could someone who has the updated scangauge II please report back what their EOT xgauge codes are (TXD, RXF, RCD, MTH)? I'm curious because my EOT is reading all the way up to 300.

Also, before I sent the SGII out, I used the wideband AFR code, which would show about 14.4-14.6 on idle, and under acceleration it would drop to 11.5 or so, which is what my tune expects. It would be a pretty linear drop/update on the SGII.

But, with the new AFR programmed in here, I am seeing 13.2 AFR on idle, and sporatic numbers updating on acceleration, anywhere from 12.5 to 15 AFR, back and forth, under light throttle. Is this expected/what others see? Maybe someone could pull these xgauge codes too?

The photo shows the updated AFR on the left, and the EOT on left, and the old AFR (named A/F to differentiate) on the right.

Thanks

 

I've PM'd you what the proper codes should be for EOT and AFR. Get back to me on whether on not they fix the issues.