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At least MINI didn't pipe in the exhaust noise through the stereo like a certain BMW model...
I still can't believe they did that. Originally Posted by walk0080
At least MINI didn't pipe in the exhaust noise through the stereo like a certain BMW model...


http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/24/l...em-enabled-vs/
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The noise IS real and not fake. It IS created by the engine after a modification, just like "old school" racers with their modifications such as cams, heads and carbs.Originally Posted by Melangell
Stevoman and Bosstones, you guys are 100% correct!!! I love the throttle and steering response of the Sport Button but hate the childish fake backfire noises. Back in the day one would get this noise from an aggressive camshaft and it would be REAL, not programmed by an ECU. Sly2001, get all of the intakes and exhausts you want but if you don't have a 2011/12, you won't get the 2011/12 backfire function.
Wether you like the noise or not, is ones opinion but it took a lot of opinions to have a car company change things due to owner feedback.
I dont think you see too much of that (change from owner feedback) from Ford Chevy or Chrysler.
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Ringtone anyone? Originally Posted by Spice Orange JCW
Pop & Burble
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/24/l...em-enabled-vs/
And I just installed black spray paint cans behind my rear tires to simulate a burnout...not a good idea?Originally Posted by axleR56
I still can't believe they did that. 
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/24/l...em-enabled-vs/

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+1Originally Posted by Llanrhaeadr_Cymru
Ringtone anyone?
You want pop and burble, there it is and ready for any iPhone.
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Question to those who did resonator delete:
Did you dyno your car before & after? Any power loss?
Also, what is the (approx) increase in noise level?
Did you dyno your car before & after? Any power loss?
Also, what is the (approx) increase in noise level?
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You won't notice any power gain/loss. I havnt dynod my car and won't until I get tuned, it wouldnt be worth it just to test a $50 resonator delete imo
As far as noise, the volume increase was barely noticeable from inside the cabin, but the tone changed a lot! I really don't think you could go wrong with this mod if you are just looking for a little more growl!
As far as noise, the volume increase was barely noticeable from inside the cabin, but the tone changed a lot! I really don't think you could go wrong with this mod if you are just looking for a little more growl!
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Sounds like my Stihl trimmer Originally Posted by sLy201
both these videos are sick ...

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I've had my 2012 since December and couldn't figure what was causing the intermittent backfire. Funny, I had the car into the dealer complaining about the backfire and they didn't mention anything about the pop and burble. A day and half later they returned my car and said they couldn't find anything. I agree with the others in this thread that the programmed exhaust noise is more of an annoyance than upgrade. The pop and burble makes it sound like something is wrong with the engine rather than denoting performance.
My previous '02 MCS with Miltek exhaust sounded considerably better. The current pop and burble just sounds fake.
My previous '02 MCS with Miltek exhaust sounded considerably better. The current pop and burble just sounds fake.
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So for those who have gone with the resonator delete, do you think it's okay to do that on a 2011 MCS? I want to do it BADLY but I am stuck because I am afraid what if I get a CEL then what do I do? HELP!?! :-/
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Said earlier that i planned on doing a resonator delete, I jsut recently got it done. Sounds great!! Didn't increase in-car volume much but the tone changed quite a bit, and for the better. Didn't notice too much power gain if any. Also added some burble to the exhaust as a bonus! Here is a link for sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGv2nvMCYS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGv2nvMCYS8
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oh my... lol i am new to the mini cooper scene and just bought a brand new left over 2011 s hardtop. and after only 2 days of driving it when i blip it or let off from hard accel. i heard that sound and thought maybe something was wrong with my car... this really made me LOL ... but thats cool its a retro thing they came back with. 

I'm extremely happy with the resonator delete on my '08 for anyone that's thinking of doing it. I would actually say my car is quite a bit louder on the outside without it now though. I had my brother drive by under hard accel and it was louder. On the inside not as much but you can definitely tell the difference in tone. it growls. haha. I was thinking about modifying my exhaust more, but this alone changed it enough to where i'm gonna leave it alone. Saved me quite a bit of money!
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Originally Posted by arsci
I'm extremely happy with the resonator delete on my '08 for anyone that's thinking of doing it. I would actually say my car is quite a bit louder on the outside without it now though. I had my brother drive by under hard accel and it was louder. On the inside not as much but you can definitely tell the difference in tone. it growls. haha. I was thinking about modifying my exhaust more, but this alone changed it enough to where i'm gonna leave it alone. Saved me quite a bit of money!
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Has anyone done the res delete themselves? If so, how difficult was it? It doesnt seem like it would be that hard to do.
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I LOVE the P&B, but (BIG but):
When I let off the throttle, it is to decelerate (...usually), and a very annoying side effect of the P&B is that decel does not happen until the engine is done P-ing and B-ing... I don't know if this is less noticeable in the autos rather than the/my manual tranny, but does it ever bug me! Take note when you engine brake when the engine coolant isn't above the 75C mark (no P&B), then try again after the P&B starts (above 75C)... It's annoying!
That being said, I still love it!
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When I let off the throttle, it is to decelerate (...usually), and a very annoying side effect of the P&B is that decel does not happen until the engine is done P-ing and B-ing... I don't know if this is less noticeable in the autos rather than the/my manual tranny, but does it ever bug me! Take note when you engine brake when the engine coolant isn't above the 75C mark (no P&B), then try again after the P&B starts (above 75C)... It's annoying!
That being said, I still love it!

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When I let off the throttle, it is to decelerate (...usually), and a very annoying side effect of the P&B is that decel does not happen until the engine is done P-ing and B-ing... I don't know if this is less noticeable in the autos rather than the/my manual tranny, but does it ever bug me! Take note when you engine brake when the engine coolant isn't above the 75C mark (no P&B), then try again after the P&B starts (above 75C)... It's annoying!
I notice the lack of P&B when the engine is cold, but can't say I ever noticed changes in engine braking with P&B and not with a manual. Hmmmm I will probably start to notice now Originally Posted by Summons
I LOVE the P&B, but (BIG but):When I let off the throttle, it is to decelerate (...usually), and a very annoying side effect of the P&B is that decel does not happen until the engine is done P-ing and B-ing... I don't know if this is less noticeable in the autos rather than the/my manual tranny, but does it ever bug me! Take note when you engine brake when the engine coolant isn't above the 75C mark (no P&B), then try again after the P&B starts (above 75C)... It's annoying!

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Sorry Walk0080!Originally Posted by walk0080
I notice the lack of P&B when the engine is cold, but can't say I ever noticed changes in engine braking with P&B and not with a manual. Hmmmm I will probably start to notice now
On another note:
I only wish the engineers had thought to leave the engine power and response ALONE in Sport vs Normal modes. All they needed to mess with was steering feel and P&B.
I honestly feel that engines should make the maximum power you payed for no matter what, when the throttle is floored. As a result, I am in Sport mode ALL the time to make sure I have max torque and minimum response times should I need them. It's a safety thing if you ask me...
Making the steering lighter and eliminating the P&B for "Normal" mode (only) would have been a better design descision IMHO, and the fuel EPA numbers be dammed!
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On another note:
I only wish the engineers had thought to leave the engine power and response ALONE in Sport vs Normal modes. All they needed to mess with was steering feel and P&B.
I disagree here... The Sport mode does not increase the power output of the engine at all.Originally Posted by Summons
Sorry Walk0080!On another note:
I only wish the engineers had thought to leave the engine power and response ALONE in Sport vs Normal modes. All they needed to mess with was steering feel and P&B.
Now I wish we could fine tune the throttle more... I find the non-sport throttle response to have too much of a delay (probably for fuel economy). Put on sport mode and the delay is gone, but sometimes it is way to touchy and takes a lot more effort to be smooth with gear changes. I use a FESAuto Sport module with sport mode always on so I just have to get used to concentrating a little more and having the occasional not so smooth gear change.
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Amen brother!Originally Posted by mfpolk
My previous '02 MCS with Miltek exhaust sounded considerably better. The current pop and burble just sounds fake.
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Originally Posted by walk0080
I disagree here... The Sport mode does not increase the power output of the engine at all.
Actually in Normal mode:
HP (hp@rpm) 181 @ 5500
Torque (lb.ft@rpm) 177 @ 1600-5000
And in Sport mode:
Overboost Torque (lb.ft@rpm) 192 @ 1700-4500
With Sport mode active, the turbo goes into "overboost" at full throttle, and the engine can produce 192lb.ft of torque. The peak Hp measurement doesn't change (the computer pulls back the turbo as the RPMs get to the peak HP area), but the torque available at lower RPMs does increase - hence my statement...
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Overboost isn't activated my sport mode, it can be accessed at any time. The car sees what you are trying to do (go go) and allows a momentary overboost to allow a bit more power for a few seconds.




