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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Fuel Gauge Inaccurate

I did a search on this topic and although I found others having issues with the fuel gauge, I was not able to find the same exact problem. I just purchased a new MCS a few weeks ago and have noticed my gas gauge might not be working correctly. The gauge reads full until I drive about 70-80 miles then goes down a tick. Also, last week I fueled up after driving 310+ miles. The gauge showed I had about 1/2 tank left but I had to put in 10.5 gallons. Is there something wrong with the gauge or is this something that will settle itself out being a new car?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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I personally have a good guestimate.
1st bar = 3 gallons
2nd bar= 2.5 gallons
3 - 10 = 1 gallonish

All MINI's are like this I think. I usually get 105 miles (highway and city mix) on my first bar.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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The fuel gauge isn't linear, below is what I think the individual petals mean. I worked this out with the help of a scangague, and it seems it was designed in litres.

Code:
Petal	Litre	used	remain	gal	used 	 remain
10	9	9	51.5	2.4	2.4	13.6
9	6	15	42.5	1.6	4.0	11.2
8	5	20	36.5	1.3	5.3	9.6
7	5	25	31.5	1.3	6.6	8.3
6	5	30	26.5	1.3	7.9	7.0
5	4.5	34.5	21.5	1.2	9.1	5.7
4	4.5	39	17	1.2	10.3	4.5
3	4.5	43.5	12.5	1.2	11.5	3.3
2	4	47.5	8	1.1	12.5	2.1
1	4	51.5	4	1.1	13.6	1.1
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Very helpful information. I was just under the impression that each bar represented the same quantity evenly. This might take some getting used to...
 
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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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Nice chart! I have ran mine down to the final carrot a few times, I have stuffed 13.9 gallons in my mini when I was waaaay low once. I usually try and fill up when the gauge turns red at 2 carrots
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 12:13 AM
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In today's digital petal fuel gauges I don't think the petals represent equal amounts of gas. In my Toyota Prius I get more miles out of the upper petals (when the tank is full)then from the lower petals. I do average 50-52 mpg, about 500 miles per tank, but I noticed that the greatest amount of mileage are in the upper range of the petals.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Btwyx
The fuel gauge isn't linear, below is what I think the individual petals mean. I worked this out with the help of a scangague, and it seems it was designed in litres.

Code:
Petal	Litre	used	remain	gal	used 	 remain
10	9	9	51.5	2.4	2.4	13.6
9	6	15	42.5	1.6	4.0	11.2
8	5	20	36.5	1.3	5.3	9.6
7	5	25	31.5	1.3	6.6	8.3
6	5	30	26.5	1.3	7.9	7.0
5	4.5	34.5	21.5	1.2	9.1	5.7
4	4.5	39	17	1.2	10.3	4.5
3	4.5	43.5	12.5	1.2	11.5	3.3
2	4	47.5	8	1.1	12.5	2.1
1	4	51.5	4	1.1	13.6	1.1
Nice graph... But 2.4 gallons seems hard to make 100+ miles. That's 40+ mpg. I usually have 37 mpg when I lose my first bar. Which would be 111 miles. Which is usually what I get. Oh well. At least we are at agreement that the gauge isn't consistent. And I base my representation on driving hour and 15 minute drive one way (4 days a week). I've studied the gauge fairly hard lol. I get bored.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BullyR56
I have stuffed 13.9 gallons in my mini when I was waaaay low once.
We just managed to get 14.6 gallons in the MINI. It was reading 0 miles when we got to the pump. This was after the last session on the track yesterday, we were both driving. In the last session I was riding along and the low fuel dinged just as we were going on track. I thought there'd be enough for the session and then enough to find a gas station. I was wrong.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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i thought that it was just a terrible fuel gage. if this is true it should be so easy for mini to fix! gah!

-Alex

Originally Posted by Btwyx
The fuel gauge isn't linear, below is what I think the individual petals mean. I worked this out with the help of a scangague, and it seems it was designed in litres.

Code:
Petal	Litre	used	remain	gal	used 	 remain
10	9	9	51.5	2.4	2.4	13.6
9	6	15	42.5	1.6	4.0	11.2
8	5	20	36.5	1.3	5.3	9.6
7	5	25	31.5	1.3	6.6	8.3
6	5	30	26.5	1.3	7.9	7.0
5	4.5	34.5	21.5	1.2	9.1	5.7
4	4.5	39	17	1.2	10.3	4.5
3	4.5	43.5	12.5	1.2	11.5	3.3
2	4	47.5	8	1.1	12.5	2.1
1	4	51.5	4	1.1	13.6	1.1
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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The gas gauge should be a linear, straightforward representation of the gas remaining in your tank. You should be able to judge this with just a glance, not have to pull out a calculator to figure it out.
MINI cherishes its "quirky" rep, but the gas gauge is just goofy. Fix it, BMW. You can keep the big, worthless speedometer in the middle of the dash, but give us a useful gas gauge.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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If you're not happy with the "accuracy" of the fuel gauge you better not check out the "accuracy" of the speedometer!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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There are lots of cars out there now that have non-linear fuel gauges. Probably two factors driving this - 1. some psychological/behavioral reasons related to people not really believing their fuel gauges and 2. the challenge of making units specifically calibrated for fuel tanks with unusual shapes (e.g. not simple square or rectangular cubes).
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jcauseyfd
... 2. the challenge of making units specifically calibrated for fuel tanks with unusual shapes (e.g. not simple square or rectangular cubes).
In this digital age (micro controllers) it's very easy to make a fuel gauge that is accurate for ANY shape! A wholesale controller and sensor would cost less than a dollar.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by John Felix
The gas gauge should be a linear, straightforward representation of the gas remaining in your tank. You should be able to judge this with just a glance, not have to pull out a calculator to figure it out.
MINI cherishes its "quirky" rep, but the gas gauge is just goofy. Fix it, BMW. You can keep the big, worthless speedometer in the middle of the dash, but give us a useful gas gauge.
now if we feel like pulling out the calculator we can see that the gas gauge follows a quadratic regression according to the equation:

Gas Used = -0.0246212121(x)^2 + 1.504772727(x) + 0.99166666667 where x is the amount of "candy corns" missing on your gauge.

wouldn't it just be easier to use our time biatching about the lack of a temperature gauge - at least we can estimate our fuel consumption!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by John Felix
The gas gauge should be a linear, straightforward representation of the gas remaining in your tank. You should be able to judge this with just a glance, not have to pull out a calculator to figure it out.
MINI cherishes its "quirky" rep, but the gas gauge is just goofy. Fix it, BMW. You can keep the big, worthless speedometer in the middle of the dash, but give us a useful gas gauge.
Leave it like is is Mini/BMW. It's a Mini. I've never run out of gas, never have a problem reading it. I understand how many miles I can get on a tank. I fill when there are 3 lights left. I also reset my trip odo each time and understand fully the folly to running low on fuel. It's just not good for a Mini. Both of our cars are 3 MPH slow on the speedo. No problem I adjust for that.

I love my cars and all that comes with em. I like the big worthless speedometer. It's Mini. But you can always eliminate that by getting the Nav.

Pat
 
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