R56 What are the minimum octane requirements for the MC and MCS?
Since you have an R52, you are talking about an entirely different engine. I don't think you can apply that to the R56. Also, you would need to include the speed, temp, altitude, and driving conditions (traffic, hills, construction, etc.) data for each octane if the numbers are to be of much value to R53 owners.
Still, I think it's interesting that the fuel economy numbers only vary by about 10% over the course of 3000 miles and eight tanks, and the economy measurements seem to be completely uncorrelated to octane rating. In fact, both the "best" tank and the "worst" tank were when I was using 87 octane.
And although I only posted one set of numbers, this isn't the only time I've done this. There was another trip two months prior to the one I posted that was from Virginia to Texas and back, with similar results. And in December, I drove from California to Texas and back, again with similar results.
I feel pretty confident that for *my* car, at least on highway trips, any difference in fuel economy resulting from octane choice is totally swamped by the normal variations due to temperature, altitude, driving speed, etcetera. I still use 91 for my daily-driving (91 is the best I can get here without driving 50 miles to get 100 octane), because it's only $0.20 more a gallon than the 86, the owner's manual recommends it, and I realize that my highway observations aren't really relevant to my daily driving conditions.
You know, in a for-what-it's-worth thought, you were always running a somewhat richer mixture than 87. After all, when you ran an 87 tank down, you added 91 for a mix. And when you ran a 91 tank down, your fresh load of 87 would have been diluted. Might not have been a big difference, but just a couple of octane is the difference between the grades.
And if you put too low an octane in the tank, the best thing you can do is run it down a bit and dilute it with premium. We had to do this when we had a BMW 2002, back in the day, and got some gas that was clearly lower than the tank label (pinged at any speed, including steady cruising). After 50 miles we added some premium; problem solved.
Then again, it was only 26 cents a gallon... Typical price, back then. Oh, for the good 'ol days!
And if you put too low an octane in the tank, the best thing you can do is run it down a bit and dilute it with premium. We had to do this when we had a BMW 2002, back in the day, and got some gas that was clearly lower than the tank label (pinged at any speed, including steady cruising). After 50 miles we added some premium; problem solved.
Then again, it was only 26 cents a gallon... Typical price, back then. Oh, for the good 'ol days!
Last edited by daffodildeb; Mar 8, 2008 at 04:22 PM.
I don't use 91 octane to increase my mileage. Not sure the difference in octane rating between 87 and 91 would really matter considering all the other variables associated with it. It's clear the people who designed the engine suggest using 91 octane. They certainly know more about it than me. It's between $2 and $3 more per fill up (about a week for me). If using premium, and those couple bucks more was an issue for me, I would have bought some other car.
I've had my MC for 2 weeks now and just filled up for the first time.....used regular. I'm about to go on a road trip and will pay attention for any reduction in performance, but am confident that it will run fine on "87 AKI" which is the same as "91 RON" (2 different methods of rating octane).
Regular 87 in my MC manual. States will not harm engine but not recommended. As detailed in other threads, engine has a knock sensor to adjust accordingly, more applicable in warmer weather. May effect performance and gas mileage, but not sure anyone has confirmed this with good data. Anyway, I'm using 87 these days. Always used regular my whole driving life, and I can't break the habit.
Does anyone know who I could email at MINIUSA to find out the actual minimum octane requirement for a 2013 "justa?"
Apparently 89 was not the minimum requirement in 2010:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...05-post59.html
Apparently 89 was not the minimum requirement in 2010:
MINIUSA speaks:
"MINI Division requires the use of premium fuel (91 AKI) only if you want to duplicate the official EPA certified emissions and fuel economy. However, if you choose to use less than 91 AKI (it is not recommended to use below 87 AKI), it will not harm the engine. It is important to note that there will be a reduction in fuel economy and performance and emissions will increase."
(Note that this answer is specific to my normally aspirated 2010 Cooper.)
"MINI Division requires the use of premium fuel (91 AKI) only if you want to duplicate the official EPA certified emissions and fuel economy. However, if you choose to use less than 91 AKI (it is not recommended to use below 87 AKI), it will not harm the engine. It is important to note that there will be a reduction in fuel economy and performance and emissions will increase."
(Note that this answer is specific to my normally aspirated 2010 Cooper.)
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...05-post59.html
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