R56 Porsche "Turbo" Emblem On a MINI?
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The "S " has nothing to do with supercharging or turbocharging. It is a Sport model designation made popular on the original Mini Cooper series. See the attached Mini Cooper S history.
The Mini Cooper and Cooper S: 1961-2000
1993 Mini Cooper
John Cooper, owner of the Cooper Car Company and designer and builder of Formula 1 and rally cars, saw the potential of the Mini for competition. Issigonis was initially reluctant to see the Mini in the role of a performance car - but after John Cooper appealed to BMC management, the two men collaborated to create the Mini Cooper, a nimble, economical and inexpensive car. The Austin Mini Cooper and Morris Mini Cooper debuted in 1961. [6][18]
The original 848 cc engine from the Morris Mini-Minor was increased to 997 cc, boosting power from 34 bhp to 55 bhp (25 to 41 kW). [8] The car featured a racing-tuned engine, twin SU carburettors, a closer-ratio gearbox and front disc brakes, uncommon at the time in a small car. One thousand units of this version were commissioned by management, intended for and designed to meet the homologation rules of Group 2 rally racing. The 997 cc engine was replaced by a shorter stroke 998 cc unit in 1964.
A more powerful Mini Cooper, dubbed the "S", was developed in tandem and released in 1963. Featuring a 1071 cc engine and larger servo-assisted disc brakes, 4,030 Cooper S cars were produced and sold until the model was updated in August 1964. Cooper also produced two models specifically for circuit racing, rated at 970 cc and a 1275 cc, both of which were also offered to the public. The smaller-engine model was not well received, and only 963 had been built when the model was discontinued in 1965. The 1275 cc Cooper S models continued in production until 1971.
Sales of the Mini Cooper were as follows: 64,000 Mk I Coopers with 997 or 998 cc engines; 19,000 Mk I Cooper S with 970, 1071 or 1275 cc engines; 16,000 Mk II Coopers with 998 cc engines; 6,300 Mk II Cooper S with 1275 cc engines. There were no Mk III Coopers and just 1,570 Mk III Cooper S's.
The Mini Cooper S earned acclaim with Monte Carlo Rally victories in 1964, 1965 and 1967. [19] Minis were initially placed first, second and third in the 1966 rally as well, but were disqualified after a controversial decision by the French judges. The disqualification related to the use of a variable resistance headlamp dimming circuit in place of a dual-filament lamp.[20] It should be noted that the Citroën DS that was eventually awarded first place had illegal white headlamps but escaped disqualification.[21] The driver of the Citroën, Pauli Toivonen, was reluctant to accept the trophy and vowed that he would never race for Citroën again. [22] BMC probably received more publicity from the disqualification than they would have gained from a victory[23] - but had the Mini not been disqualified, it would have been the only car in history to be placed in the top three on the Monte Carlo for six consecutive years
The Mini Cooper and Cooper S: 1961-2000
1993 Mini Cooper
John Cooper, owner of the Cooper Car Company and designer and builder of Formula 1 and rally cars, saw the potential of the Mini for competition. Issigonis was initially reluctant to see the Mini in the role of a performance car - but after John Cooper appealed to BMC management, the two men collaborated to create the Mini Cooper, a nimble, economical and inexpensive car. The Austin Mini Cooper and Morris Mini Cooper debuted in 1961. [6][18]
The original 848 cc engine from the Morris Mini-Minor was increased to 997 cc, boosting power from 34 bhp to 55 bhp (25 to 41 kW). [8] The car featured a racing-tuned engine, twin SU carburettors, a closer-ratio gearbox and front disc brakes, uncommon at the time in a small car. One thousand units of this version were commissioned by management, intended for and designed to meet the homologation rules of Group 2 rally racing. The 997 cc engine was replaced by a shorter stroke 998 cc unit in 1964.
A more powerful Mini Cooper, dubbed the "S", was developed in tandem and released in 1963. Featuring a 1071 cc engine and larger servo-assisted disc brakes, 4,030 Cooper S cars were produced and sold until the model was updated in August 1964. Cooper also produced two models specifically for circuit racing, rated at 970 cc and a 1275 cc, both of which were also offered to the public. The smaller-engine model was not well received, and only 963 had been built when the model was discontinued in 1965. The 1275 cc Cooper S models continued in production until 1971.
Sales of the Mini Cooper were as follows: 64,000 Mk I Coopers with 997 or 998 cc engines; 19,000 Mk I Cooper S with 970, 1071 or 1275 cc engines; 16,000 Mk II Coopers with 998 cc engines; 6,300 Mk II Cooper S with 1275 cc engines. There were no Mk III Coopers and just 1,570 Mk III Cooper S's.
The Mini Cooper S earned acclaim with Monte Carlo Rally victories in 1964, 1965 and 1967. [19] Minis were initially placed first, second and third in the 1966 rally as well, but were disqualified after a controversial decision by the French judges. The disqualification related to the use of a variable resistance headlamp dimming circuit in place of a dual-filament lamp.[20] It should be noted that the Citroën DS that was eventually awarded first place had illegal white headlamps but escaped disqualification.[21] The driver of the Citroën, Pauli Toivonen, was reluctant to accept the trophy and vowed that he would never race for Citroën again. [22] BMC probably received more publicity from the disqualification than they would have gained from a victory[23] - but had the Mini not been disqualified, it would have been the only car in history to be placed in the top three on the Monte Carlo for six consecutive years
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[quote=copshopcoupe;1944289]The "S " has nothing to do with supercharging or turbocharging. It is a Sport model designation made popular on the original Mini Cooper series. See the attached Mini Cooper S history.
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Took my "CooperS" emblem off for the purely cosmetic boot stripe mod. Not putting it back on. I think it looks better without the emblems.
As for this being a "rice" mod, I disagree. The car has a turbo, "rice" only applies when the sticker or mod is for something not in the car.
Do what you want to your car. Screw everybody else.
As for this being a "rice" mod, I disagree. The car has a turbo, "rice" only applies when the sticker or mod is for something not in the car.
Do what you want to your car. Screw everybody else.
I feel that if the badge didn't come on your car it doesn't belong there. People have been putting them on VAG cars for a while now and I've never liked it. I personally think that the badge is disproportional to the back of a MINI. It's too big.
Like everyone else has said... It's your car have your fun and do what you like to it.
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From: Aventura, Florida
My $.02,
Josh
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From: Atlanta GA
Yikes, appear to have touched a soft spot among mini lovers.
It would still be nice to have the Turbo emblem
You see them added to lots of cars, from Corvettes, Camaros, GTOs, Firebirds, etc... when they add turbos or s/c beyond the normal Z06 and/or SS, Firehawk emblems.
Although with the Alta CAI, it is funny to see people look at the car when they hear the blow off.
Already had one kids stop me after getting out and ask me "Did I hear a turbo on that Mini???"
YUP with a big grin.
It would still be nice to have the Turbo emblem
You see them added to lots of cars, from Corvettes, Camaros, GTOs, Firebirds, etc... when they add turbos or s/c beyond the normal Z06 and/or SS, Firehawk emblems.
Although with the Alta CAI, it is funny to see people look at the car when they hear the blow off.
Already had one kids stop me after getting out and ask me "Did I hear a turbo on that Mini???"
YUP
with a big grin.
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From: Canton, GA
Caught me; I'm a ******, alright. I even have a Wooley Pulley sweater, tweed hat, & driving gloves....I can't help it; there's no 12-step program.
Roast beef with Yorkshire pudding for Christmas dinner; chased down with the Glenlivet. Yum.
But I would still never sully the dignity of my car with a non-OE Turbo emblem.
A NAM badge, Mini Motoring Hearts, JCW, AtlantaMINIS, Alta, M7, Harrison Motorworks, etc. yes.
And I dated a girl named Debbie Bullock a long time ago; she was a sweetie with the most endearing smile.
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Bottom line. If you like it then do it. Who am I to tell you you can't put a badge on your car? I just think it's silly to slap a badge on a car just because it had a turbo.
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From: Townsend, Montana
Actually, from reading all these webs I was lead to believe it is a hemi. And if you ever looked at the business end of a head removed from a car it sure looks like it is. Thats why I thought the emblem might be apropos. All in fun....
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I wouldn't put that on my MINI (not a fan of extra badges) but would find it absolutely priceless on someone else's!!!
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It took three pages of opinions before someone actually responded to my opening request! All I asked was for a photo - Thanks Minirabbit !
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