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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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95MPH governor?

Does any know if there is a governor at 95 MPH? The car doesn't stop, but continues to hiccup at the same place.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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i dont think so???

why whered you hear that
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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There's an electronic limiter, but it's at 139MPH.

(Note - that figure is taken from the MINI website. There are people that have claimed to have exceeded 139MPH in stock MINIs. Regardless, there's no limiter at 95MPH).
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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like others have said there is no governor at 95mph, when i went to get my MINI serviced friday i went out to eat with the guy that sold me my MINI, and we were going down the road the next thing i know he says man we were going 96 mph. it was running fine and i'm sure it still had a lot more power to go faster.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
There's an electronic limiter, but it's at 139MPH.

(Note - that figure is taken from the MINI website. There are people that have claimed to have exceeded 139MPH in stock MINIs. Regardless, there's no limiter at 95MPH).
A bit off topic, but does anyone know why 139??? At first I thought it was in accordance with the tire speed ratings, but they jump from 130 (H) to 149 (V).
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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A bit off topic, but does anyone know why 139??? At first I thought it was in accordance with the tire speed ratings, but they jump from 130 (H) to 149 (V).

i think it is becuase thats how how the engine allows??
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper Freq
Does any know if there is a governor at 95 MPH? The car doesn't stop, but continues to hiccup at the same place.
No limiter, but what exactly do you mean by "hiccup"?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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i think it is becuase thats how how the engine allows??
But if such is the case then why put an electronic limiter, and not just do like other cars that have a RPM or draft limited top speed?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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The MINI site doesn't specifically say that there's a dedicated speed limiter - it may just be that 139MPH corresponds to when the rev limiter kicks on in 6th gear.

(This would actually make more sense, because not all of the models have the same top speed - the differences could be accounted for by the different top-gear ratios among the various models).
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
The MINI site doesn't specifically say that there's a dedicated speed limiter - it may just be that 139MPH corresponds to when the rev limiter kicks on in 6th gear.

(This would actually make more sense, because not all of the models have the same top speed - the differences could be accounted for by the different top-gear ratios among the various models).
Very true, that makes a lot more sense - thanks!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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I found out first hand that the rev limiter is at about 115 in 4th
139 in 6th sounds about right.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Msteadman
Very true, that makes a lot more sense - thanks!
And the fact that there can be quite the difference between speedo readings depending on tires and model year.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks

Thanks for the words. I guess I need to re-test that 95 MPH run and get batter data. I felt like the engine was being choked of air or fuel...didn't quit accelerating, but a slight lunge as if I let off the gas at 95.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Was it time to shift to 4th?

I know many of the pre-2007s have a flatspot in the 3200k RPM range maybe something similar? Hard to tell though.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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i am shocked none of the geeser puds didnt come in here and complain about people speeding and how you are endangering lives and what not. Funny...... i guess if you are racing yourself its no big deal, but add another car into the equation and all the puds have a problem with it......
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Motor On- I LOVE your lights. I wish they would offer the driving lights in yellow (even though those are just about the only lights of yours that aren't yellow).
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by High3nd
i am shocked none of the geeser puds didnt come in here and complain about people speeding and how you are endangering lives and what not. Funny...... i guess if you are racing yourself its no big deal, but add another car into the equation and all the puds have a problem with it......
This wasn't at the fri night run what you bring drag strip?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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I drove thru Utah from Mexican Hat to Hanksville on Hwys 163, 261. and 95. We passed the first vehicle at 148 miles. Broad daylight, clear skies, dry road. The only evidence of human existence was that long ribbon of asphalt.
There is no limiter on Percy at 95.

I don't condone or encourage speeding, but, if a tree falls in the forest.....
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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It's not 139 - it's 133.59 mph, if posted electronic speed limitations are correct.

The car is German, therefore it's set up using the metric system. Convertibles are electronically limited to 215km/h, or 133.59 mph, sedans 224 km/h or 139.19 It's an even number in km/h - which means it wouldn't be an even number nor a number that makes sense in the SAE measurements

That said, I've travelled just under the electronic speed limiter, and I assure you its not 95 mph
 

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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I'm not sure where else the limits are posted, but this is what I got from the MINIUSA site:

 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by High3nd
i am shocked none of the geeser puds didnt come in here and complain about people speeding and how you are endangering lives and what not. Funny...... i guess if you are racing yourself its no big deal, but add another car into the equation and all the puds have a problem with it......

HAHA Great point!!!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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i wonder why mini limits the non s model to 126?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Well, I think the Cooper manual is a five-speed, where the 'S' manual is a six-speed, so it may be because of the differences in top gear ratio.

I'm not sure why the convertibles have different limits than their hardtop counterparts, though - the engines and transmissions are the same.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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Hey Viper,

Aren't you the one that just asked how to improve fuel efficiency?

J/K !!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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One of the big car magazines (Car and Driver, I believe it was) actually stated that the R56 Cooper S is drag limited to 139MPH, though I have seen it listed as electronically limited elsewhere.
 
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