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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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Turbo timer install

I tried searching the forums but didn't find answers...

1.) can a turbo timer be installed? How?
2.) what brand is compatible with the r56?

I know after turning the car off, there is an oil cooler or something to cool the turbo down. Still, i want a good old fashioned turbo timer
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MIN 18
I know after turning the car off, there is an oil cooler or something to cool the turbo down. Still, i want a good old fashioned turbo timer
I'm sure there's somthing out there that would work. Unfortunately to date, no one has really reported installing such a device.

So it kind of forces the question: If you know there's already one built into the MINI's turbo system... why?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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It would be interesting to find this out... I know when you hit the start/stop button it then allows you to take the key out.. I'm guessing, if you tried this with a TT it would work just as any other car... I don't think anyone has attempted yet because of the fact the fans/coolant or whatever runs for so long sometimes after shutting the engine off anyways..
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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What about if you have the comfort access system and walk away from the car, ultimatley out of range, with the key in your pocket. Once you and the key get out of range the engine should shut down right?
not really a turbo timer, but allows the engine to run for a few momments after you park nonetheless
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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what we need is something to keep the fan going along with the pump...
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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So.. I guess whoever's mentioned turbo timers drives there mini to the max...

Are you guilty?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Wouldn't this be a software function? I assume the OBC controls the cooling after shutting off the engine. It seems to vary in how long it runs, so it isn't a simple timer. So, one would need to program the OBC to do whatever cooling sequence you wanted, right?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zach999
What about if you have the comfort access system and walk away from the car, ultimatley out of range, with the key in your pocket. Once you and the key get out of range the engine should shut down right?
not really a turbo timer, but allows the engine to run for a few momments after you park nonetheless
If you have the comfort access system, the car will continue to run until it is shut off, at which time if the key is not present it won't re-start.

The fan and coolant will cool down the turbo with the car turned off and once the turbo is cool enough they will shut off automatically. It's it's own turbo timer. It's a smart little Mini
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cine
The fan and coolant will cool down the turbo with the car turned off and once the turbo is cool enough they will shut off automatically. It's it's own turbo timer. It's a smart little Mini
That is not entirely correct. I believe the reason to have a turbo timer is to allow the turbo to cool down while the engine is still running. The main reason to allow it to slow/cool down with the engine running is to maintain oil pressure from the oil pump driven off the motor (unless MINI has devised an electric oil pump also?)
at least that is what I understand the purpose of letting the car idle for a few minutes after being parked.

$.02
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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yes but

modern turbos also have water running around the bearing housing and electric water pumps to circulate that coolant. Besides if you're worried about it, slow down the last few blocks before your destination. On the odd occasion that you get to point B right after the highway, go ahead and let it idle a minute. If you still want to spend your money on something that may not even work on a BMW pressing the stop button sends a message to the computer to shut down the motor. It would seem silly to me to design an interface to receive and interpret that signal and retransmit it a few minutes later.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by zach999
...unless MINI has devised an electric oil pump also?
As mentioned by the original poster... they have.

As stated here and in a few other threads, it's already esentially got one. Now an old-school "turbo timer" would continue to actually run the engine for a period of time to circulate fluids and cool the turbo down... but the MINI does the same thing with an electric pump.

Run your car hard, park and turn off the engine. Pop the hood and listen. Hear that little electric motor running? There you go.

This is therefore an unnecessary mod.
 

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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Yeah, but to be honest, I have read about how we should be able to run it hard and put it away wet, but I am still frightened a little. It just seems wrong. So, depending if I could coast the last block to my destination, I let it sit for a moment. At the least, I make shutting it off the last thing I do before getting out of the car.

I had considered a turbo timer, but some of the posts here make me think that is not likely for the mini.

So, I plan to get an egt gauge sooner than before. That will at least give me some piece of mind before shutting it off. I know the ECU works to keep it below 950 at wot, so it is not gonna be maxing at 1150 like the truck I used to drive. Also, it is not an auto like the truck was. So sitting at a light it is not gonna hover around 450 either. But, I would still like to know before I shut it down and expect the electric pump to cool it from 650 degrees.


Plus, I will have some idea if I am burning the poor thing down when I change things later.
 
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