as long as there are still posters who post items that stifle conversation. I'll keep beating the sucker till it's hamburger (horseburger?).

Matt

 

Everybody likes what they like. I like my R53. Clubman, hmm. Don't like the 56 in general. But the only way to change things is:

1) Get a job at MINI as a designer.
2) Don't buy what I don't like.

The new models are out and they are selling so getting MINI to go back to the "classic" look that the OP wants is not likely.

Yes you can say you don't like it, but at this point, it's a bit late. Hence, dead horse.

 

Are there any pictures that have the two versions next to each other for comparison purposes? I've tried looking, but I didn't have any luck. And while I did find one series of pictures that had an R53 & an R56, the cars were in different positions within each picture, so there wasn't a good opportunity to see them from the same perspective.

 

By confused us with people that care I really meant why is his opinion so worthwhile that it needs its own thread? I'm sure there are plenty of existing threads where he could have voiced his displeasure at the visual aesthetic of the R56 (but how's about you bother to drive the car before you write it off ).
I'm not trying to stifle his right to post his opinions but I do question the positioning of his thread.

 

Folks if you notice, the OP has not made any further comments, so it seems his mission was acccomplished. This thread continues on and on and re-hashing the aruments made when the new models arrived, and defending peoples right to start non informative posts.

 

Methinks the doc is wrestling with an errant hair today.....

 

I almost ran over an errant hare this morning...

 

"Kill da wabbit, kill da wabbit...."

 

There's others somewhere out there, but I had this one saved. Mmm, horseburger.

 

Wow! I have to say, I'm impressed that there is actually that much change yet it isn't that obvious "out there."

 

The R56 stands up more. I love both cars but the 56 is meaner for sure.

 

Thanks!

 

That is not where the cost went.

 

Playing Devil's Advocate here, how are sales figures on the new gen? I no longer own my '06 S but loved it for the time I had it. I test drove two '07's with and without sports suspension and without a doubt, a new one for me would have to have SS. I suspect I will own another MINI in the future and it will come down to buying a new one, or searching for the perfect '05/'06 used one. I know just by drive-bys that both Houston dealers seem to have lots of cars on their lots, where in past years they almost always had no "stock" cars. Have sales cooled? or are there just bigger allotments now?

 

THE SAME HELL NO, the R56 is ugly the R53 is super sexy looking. I'll give you the R56 has the better engine, BUT THATS THE ONLY THING IT HAS GOING FOR IT. ok now you can close the thread.

 

Now that you no doubt alienated a good chunk of your club members?

 

There's an old German proverb...."There is no bad beer. Some beer is just better than others."

I feel the same about Minis....I've seen some I like more than others, but I can't say I've ever seen one I don't like - from the classics to the r56.

Motor on!

 

A quick way to tell: The windshield wipers. On the pre-R56's, they are mounted on top of the sheet metal and next to 2 black, oblong vents. On the R56, they are mounted in the black cowel beneath the windshield edge of the bonnet (i.e., you can't see the mount point unless you are standing right near it).

 

Please, I am officially the "sh*t disturber of record" for this forum. Leave the negativity to me, thank you.
As to the "look" of the R56...99% of people out there can't even see the difference. They must know something.
You've never driven an 07 MCS? Well, at least your opinion is well founded. NOT.
Oh, and I LOVE my 07 MCS. This from a guy who drove an original 62 Cooper till recently.
IF you want to start a P*ssing Contest, "I'm you're huckleberry"

 

Interesting....

I like my 05 MCS - there are a couple of details that irritate me sure, but nothing that I have not learned to accept and/or ignore in the last 60K miles.

the R56 ?

Well it is a better car than my '05, in almost every way, except I do not like the rear end treatment.

The seats are way better, the engine has way more low-end grunt, the fuel economy is massively better, the suspension feels better, the gearchange is nicer, but the rear-end treatment ? Nope sorry I am not keen.

The Interior is better, there feels like there is more space, that 'secret' compartments rocks - even if it is hard to open , the new leather feels nicer than the old and the telescoping wheel is a godsend. But, the rear end ? There is something horribly wrong with it - it looks like there is som trim missing around the exhaust, or its jacked up like a 70's hot rod. Sorry I really have a problem with that.

But again, the dynamics are better, I took one along my test route and it just plain stuck to the road and did not make a fuss at all, no crashes from the suspension, no shimmying just lots and lots of grip and feedback. I got out and stood back, took a long look and well my eye's where drawn to the back - sorry, but I really do not like that rump......

 

Awesome screen name, a fellow MINI and Steelers fan! Best combination in the world!!

Edit: Oh, and, I really do like the 56. But both generations are cool.

 

...that means there's 3 of us!


Go Steelers!

 

Whoopty-freakin'-doo!!! Thanks for sharing.

I think my R56 can run circles around your R53 in every single way. There. Now I've shared my POINTLESS opinion.

 

This is getting to be rather humorous now. A fun little thing.

Porp: I HATE THAT SAMMICH!
Peep: But, they are the same.
Porp: NO! They are NOT the same! One is fresher and newer, the other is older and moldier!
Peep: Uh,..ok,..but the newer one should taste better.
Porp: NO! I like moldy!
Peep: Well,..there is only so many of the old sammiches left. Once the are gone, they are gone.
Porp: But I LIKE THE OLE SAMMICH BETTER!
Peep: That is cool, but you are going to get awfully skinny wating for another one.
Porp: OK! BUT I DO NOT LIKE THE NEW SAMMICH!
Peep: And so.....?
Porp: I DO NOT LIKE THE NEW SAMMICH!
Peep: Yeah,..I got that. But why...
Porp: I DO NOT LIKE THE NEW SAMMICH!
Peep: Uhh,..ok. Anything else?
Porp: I DO NOT LIKE THE NEW SAMMICH!
Peep: How about a new drink?
Porp: I DO NOT LIKE THE NEW SAMMICH!
Peep: <sigh>

I dunno. Just sounds a bit funny anymore.

 

Well when I was a member I never shared my views on the R56 with the club. At the time I think there was 2 members with R56's. Now that I am no longer in the club who cares what any of them think.