R55 Clubman or 2010 Prius? What to do, what to do...
#51
Seriously, run the numbers using any realistic assumptions as far as gas mileage, gas cost, miles driven per year, vehicle lifetime and repair costs (remembering that hybrids have warranties just like any other car), and you'll realize just how ridiculous his claim is.
#52
#53
Im just saying what I heard from someone who has been repairing vehicles for over 30 years.
He also owns a hybrid tahoe that his wife drives, which he services, so I'm assuming he knows a little bit of this as a shop owner and a customer.
He has a very solid reputation with automotive knowledge.
you are just taking gas into affect, not maintenance, which is not warrantied
He also owns a hybrid tahoe that his wife drives, which he services, so I'm assuming he knows a little bit of this as a shop owner and a customer.
He has a very solid reputation with automotive knowledge.
you are just taking gas into affect, not maintenance, which is not warrantied
#54
So to use your numbers, that's $8000 in gas for the Prius at $4/gallon, or $20,000 if gas were hypothetically $10/gallon. Do you really think that a hybrid is going to have an extra $12000 of maintenance/repair costs between the end of the warranty period and the 100k mile point compared to a conventional car?
#55
Right, right, I guess I've just always wanted to figure the gas difference out.
Maintenance- if the 2010 Prius is like the Insight, the battery will be covered under warranty for 100,000 miles.
To tell you the truth, I was more concerned with the maintenance of the Mini over the Prius never having owned one. Someone was just saying how expensive parts, are.
Maintenance- if the 2010 Prius is like the Insight, the battery will be covered under warranty for 100,000 miles.
To tell you the truth, I was more concerned with the maintenance of the Mini over the Prius never having owned one. Someone was just saying how expensive parts, are.
#56
#58
Oh, no argument there - it just really chaps my *** when people like that radio show host throw out ridiculous numbers that don't even pass the most basic "sniff test".
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@deadringer-
I wouldn't call it a turd but a souless appliance.
I think its funny how people with hybrids thing they are doing the world a huge service by using less oil. Thats all well and good (and narrow sighted)but what about when it comes to replace the batteries? There are very lethal chemicals in them that are really not to nice for people or the environment not to mention the very eco unfriendly way batteries are made.
also they aren't made with more ecofriendly materials either; I'll bet you can recycle more of a high zoot Mercedes or a mini for that matter than any Prius.
Eco friendly? Not so much. Misguided hollywood hyped political statement? Sure.
-gets off soap box-
I wouldn't call it a turd but a souless appliance.
I think its funny how people with hybrids thing they are doing the world a huge service by using less oil. Thats all well and good (and narrow sighted)but what about when it comes to replace the batteries? There are very lethal chemicals in them that are really not to nice for people or the environment not to mention the very eco unfriendly way batteries are made.
also they aren't made with more ecofriendly materials either; I'll bet you can recycle more of a high zoot Mercedes or a mini for that matter than any Prius.
Eco friendly? Not so much. Misguided hollywood hyped political statement? Sure.
-gets off soap box-
#66
@deadringer-
I wouldn't call it a turd but a souless appliance.
I think its funny how people with hybrids thing they are doing the world a huge service by using less oil. Thats all well and good (and narrow sighted)but what about when it comes to replace the batteries? There are very lethal chemicals in them that are really not to nice for people or the environment not to mention the very eco unfriendly way batteries are made.
also they aren't made with more ecofriendly materials either; I'll bet you can recycle more of a high zoot Mercedes or a mini for that matter than any Prius.
Eco friendly? Not so much. Misguided hollywood hyped political statement? Sure.
-gets off soap box-
I wouldn't call it a turd but a souless appliance.
I think its funny how people with hybrids thing they are doing the world a huge service by using less oil. Thats all well and good (and narrow sighted)but what about when it comes to replace the batteries? There are very lethal chemicals in them that are really not to nice for people or the environment not to mention the very eco unfriendly way batteries are made.
also they aren't made with more ecofriendly materials either; I'll bet you can recycle more of a high zoot Mercedes or a mini for that matter than any Prius.
Eco friendly? Not so much. Misguided hollywood hyped political statement? Sure.
-gets off soap box-
#67
I certainly don't think companies should be pressured into making only turdboxes though because of supposed carbon caps. (psst Obama) That is simply communistic and un-American. I will drive whatever I please in this land of the free thank you very much.
Newsflash, many many many of my friends think my car is a turd or a girly car or a G-AY car. I don't really care what other people think. Drive what you want, that is America.
But I think its a turd.
#69
What was said earlier, I say DITTO!,
"In the Clubman, you'll be accelerating to get around traffic, taking the back roads, wishing you lived even farther from your office, and joining MINI owners clubs in your area. As you may soon discover, you're not just buying a MINI, you're joining a cult!"
My neighbor, who is an actuary for an Insurance company, (and quite a conservative personality-type) bought a brand new 2008 Prius last year. She was all PC about the great MPG, the online graphing, hyper-miling, coasting, etc. She was really enjoying the Prius groove. Last month I let her drive my Mini Cooper. Now she wants to trade in her Prius and get a Mini, so go figure!
"In the Clubman, you'll be accelerating to get around traffic, taking the back roads, wishing you lived even farther from your office, and joining MINI owners clubs in your area. As you may soon discover, you're not just buying a MINI, you're joining a cult!"
My neighbor, who is an actuary for an Insurance company, (and quite a conservative personality-type) bought a brand new 2008 Prius last year. She was all PC about the great MPG, the online graphing, hyper-miling, coasting, etc. She was really enjoying the Prius groove. Last month I let her drive my Mini Cooper. Now she wants to trade in her Prius and get a Mini, so go figure!
#70
What was said earlier, I say DITTO!,
"In the Clubman, you'll be accelerating to get around traffic, taking the back roads, wishing you lived even farther from your office, and joining MINI owners clubs in your area. As you may soon discover, you're not just buying a MINI, you're joining a cult!"
My neighbor, who is an actuary for an Insurance company, (and quite a conservative personality-type) bought a brand new 2008 Prius last year. She was all PC about the great MPG, the online graphing, hyper-miling, coasting, etc. She was really enjoying the Prius groove. Last month I let her drive my Mini Cooper. Now she wants to trade in her Prius and get a Mini, so go figure!
"In the Clubman, you'll be accelerating to get around traffic, taking the back roads, wishing you lived even farther from your office, and joining MINI owners clubs in your area. As you may soon discover, you're not just buying a MINI, you're joining a cult!"
My neighbor, who is an actuary for an Insurance company, (and quite a conservative personality-type) bought a brand new 2008 Prius last year. She was all PC about the great MPG, the online graphing, hyper-miling, coasting, etc. She was really enjoying the Prius groove. Last month I let her drive my Mini Cooper. Now she wants to trade in her Prius and get a Mini, so go figure!
I never understood hypermiling or coasting in the Prius. Jeez, you're already getting 40+mpg.
Weirdos.
#72
#73
Or the "go Green" eco friendly BS!
But I think I may change professions and start selling "green" products to gullible American tree huggers
#74
#75
From the above article:
"Mini, on the other hand, makes a lot more horsepower, has a much better suspension set-up, is infinitely more fun to look at and drive than Prius (or most any other car in any price range) and it's made by BMW, never a negative.
The numbers may tell one story, but because cars are still all about emotion, fun, sex and fashion, there's a large audience of drivers and car-buyers you'd have a hard time convincing that the Prius is "better" than the Mini, green factors considered or not.
Isn't "green" just another marketing scam when cars are still being powered by dead dinosaurs?"
Amen!!!
"Mini, on the other hand, makes a lot more horsepower, has a much better suspension set-up, is infinitely more fun to look at and drive than Prius (or most any other car in any price range) and it's made by BMW, never a negative.
The numbers may tell one story, but because cars are still all about emotion, fun, sex and fashion, there's a large audience of drivers and car-buyers you'd have a hard time convincing that the Prius is "better" than the Mini, green factors considered or not.
Isn't "green" just another marketing scam when cars are still being powered by dead dinosaurs?"
Amen!!!