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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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NEW MINI Crossover spy shots!

Didn't know where else to put these photo's, but here they are...







 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:57 AM
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Whoa....

That thing doesn't look much bigger than a Clubman.

And where's the single side wrapping rear door?
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Don't like the rounded corners and the narrow rear roofline. 4 doors probably reduces the boot area vs. the Clubman. I would just rather have a AWD Clubman, personally.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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I think I see those Hyundai bug-eyes!
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Perhaps it is too early to draw conclusions about what will finally hit the production line. Look at where the Clubman was 18 months prior to production, and it was a close follower/extension of the R56. Given that this is a new platform, that there might be some more design refinements to come.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Deutsch


First off thanks for the pics.

My one observation (knowing that things will change) is that from this pics the driver will sit somewhat higher! The body seems narrower and taller than the Clubman.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:56 AM
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Given that this is a new platform, that there might be some more design refinements to come.
This is NOT a new platform; the crossover will share its underpinnings with the R56/55.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Deutsch
This is NOT a new platform; the crossover will share its underpinnings with the R56/55.
That is said with a surprising degree of authority for a platform that the world outside of BMW/MINI knows precious little beyond concept press releases.

Its a little like saying that the Highlander was not a new platform for Toyota because it shared underpinnings with the Camry.

Just saying that there is a whole lot of changes between now and when it hits a showroom.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Spy shots?

Wow... I barely noticed the MINI in that picture with the clever camouflage they used to make it blend into its surroundings.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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One other note is that the rear twin doors appear to be shaped to actually be a hatch. Also recall reading somewhere that a Mini spokesman said the twin doors would remain a Clubman-only feature. Still not in love with the shape - far too conventional SUV - at least at this point in its development.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Deutsch
This is NOT a new platform; the crossover will share its underpinnings with the R56/55.

Um, actually every thing I've read has said that this is a NEW platform that is shared with the X1 (hence the 5 lug wheels) and has clubman elements.

http://http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/04/04/a-close-look-at-the-2010-mini-crossover/

Also, the question of barn doors or not has already been answered. Thus, this is just some false camo to throw people off. (just like the boot hinge camo on the R57)

http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/07/...or-hatch-back/
 

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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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What I have noticed is that there is a lot of angle to the rear hatch since it has a hatchback I would have loved for it to have barn doors(less angle) and have a longer roof for more interior space.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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Um, actually every thing I've read has said that this is a NEW platform that is shared with the X1 (hence the 5 lug wheels) and has clubman elements.
If this was in fact based off of the same platform as the X1 then it would have a much longer dash to axle ratio than it does, which is very much in line with that of a FWD car. I think that's enough to cement the fact the R60 is indeed based off of an existing MINI dedicated platform. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty confident (as of now) that's the correct guess.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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I was reading the article in "Motoring File" ( http://www.motoringfile.com/section/r60/ ) regarding the "Crossman". They mention the false rear doors, 4 real doors, etc. I suspect that the production model will have more traditionally MINI style lights.
While it may fit nicely into BMW's expansion plans for MINI, I, as noted by "COPYWRITES", would prefer an AWD version of the "Clubman".

An additional comment : A very intelligent article regarding the "Crossman" can be found at: http://www.nathanielsalzman.com/2008...sover-concept/ .
 

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 06:45 AM
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Compare and contrast to the X1 spy shots
A platform mate to the Mini Crossman, the new X1 appears to take design cues from across the BMW lineup. The taillights resemble those of the facelifted 3-Series, while the grille reminds us of the redesigned 7-Series. The headlights are angular and unique, and the foglights are positioned relatively high on the front fascia. The upward sweeping shoulderline and sloped rear window give the impression of an X6-like rear, despite a relatively conventional storage area.
The X1 is expected to hit the market in 2009 with full time all-wheel drive. Its overall size is also said to be comparable to the Toyota RAV4. It remains possible that the X1 will share some components with MINI’s upcoming SUV.
Other details on the production X1 remain a mystery, but drivetrain options will likely mirror those offered in the 1-Series. Since BMW is going after the fuel efficiency crowd,
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-x1-future.html
http://www.leftlanenews.com/cars/ima...008%2Fx1-2.jpg



 
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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i don't know how you could even give an opinion on it. It gave me vertigo.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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WOW, I dont remember seeing a paint option like that, maybe its a new one that will be Crossman specific. Talk about "youification"
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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So I noticed that the 2009 MINI Calendar includes an unfamiliar sketch. It doesn't look like the interior of the current or previous car but it does looks like it has four full doors. Could be a sketch of the production Crossover interior, I reckon.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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i don't know how you could even give an opinion on it. It gave me vertigo.
I think you should postpone your North American tour!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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The dealer had a german auto magazine in the owner's waiting lounge that had a review on the crossover mini. Seems like it is only 3 in longer then the clubman. The paint job was a bit more conservative in the ad.

The full roll back soft sunroof looked interesting too.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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One hint that the boot "barn doors" are camo versus the real deal is the single wiper. No way that is a real wiper or it would break when the doors open. Personally, I would have loved to have the 4 door option, but the design so far makes me love the fact that I went for the Clubbie and didn't wait. Like Otra said, I am sure there are more design changes to come so I will reserve judgement.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 05:36 AM
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Looks to me like MINI has succimbed to the "me too" school of automotive design. Looks the same to me as any other ugly cross-over.

But then again, even Scion compromised its integrity by abandoning its unique and eccentric designs.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jumboshrimp
One hint that the boot "barn doors" are camo versus the real deal is the single wiper. No way that is a real wiper or it would break when the doors open. Personally, I would have loved to have the 4 door option, but the design so far makes me love the fact that I went for the Clubbie and didn't wait. Like Otra said, I am sure there are more design changes to come so I will reserve judgement.
It looks like it's just a piece of electrical tape running down the middle.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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So I noticed that the 2009 MINI Calendar includes an unfamiliar sketch. It doesn't look like the interior of the current or previous car but it does looks like it has four full doors. Could be a sketch of the production Crossover interior, I reckon.
I think that is a sketch of the Crossover concept.
 
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