Why no all-season tire option with web-spoke wheels?

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Sep 30, 2008 | 01:37 PM
  #1  
Hi folks, new to the forum and getting ready to place my order.

I decided I liked the web-spoke wheel option, but also feel I need the all-season tires here in WA. Does anyone know how come the system lets you get the all-season tires with the 17" 5-spoke pace wheel, but not the 17" web-spoke wheel? Has anyone gotten around this?
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Sep 30, 2008 | 01:59 PM
  #2  
Quote: Hi folks, new to the forum and getting ready to place my order.

I decided I liked the web-spoke wheel option, but also feel I need the all-season tires here in WA. Does anyone know how come the system lets you get the all-season tires with the 17" 5-spoke pace wheel, but not the 17" web-spoke wheel? Has anyone gotten around this?
Most of us that run the high performance tires get a second set of Snow tires not All Season as the snow tires do a much better job at handling the snow than all season tires.

As for the tires that come as factory standard. they are runflats and you also may not like those as well. Many people do not like them as they produce a much rougher ride.

I do not know of any way to get around this on a factory order.
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Sep 30, 2008 | 08:18 PM
  #3  
MINIs are highly customizable, which is a significantly more expensive and time-consuming process to mass-produce than say a Ford Model-T for example. Unfortunately we can't have everything and MINIs marketing gurus did bundle a few options together to save some money. Somebody at MINI thought that most people that are upgrading to a lighter wheel (web-spokes from crown-spokes, by a small margin) with a more aggressive look would also want a stickier summer-tire. Of course that isn't true for everyone, but somebody probably did the math to figure out how many people would want web-spokes with all-seasons and decided the demand didn't justify the cost.

I'd talk to your motoring advisor. If you're going to have any luck ending up with web-spokes (they do look quite beautiful) with all season tires ask your MA if you order the car with web-spokes if they could trade the high-performance rubber for all season at the dealership or if you ordered the standard crown-spokes with all-seasons if they could cut you a deal at the dealership to get a set of web-spokes. I just traded in my 03 MCS for an 06 MCS and I had leeway in regards to wheels/tires, but it was a used car which probably had some influence on that.

Lastly, I agree with what schatzy62 said regarding getting a set of winter-tires. The first New England winter that I had the snow tires on demonstrated a night-and-day difference from the all-seasons. I now run Pirelli PZero Neros in the summer and Michelin Pilot Alpines in the winter and have a no-compromise solution that I love.
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Sep 30, 2008 | 10:50 PM
  #4  
I appreciate the two sets of wheels method for eeking out the most of the vehicle, but our mini won't be in enough snow to justify the extra cost and storage space. I will be doing that with our other vehicle, tho. I was just thinking the all-seasons would be better in the tons of rain we get (less hydroplaning, better stopping) and at near-freezing temps. The clubman is going to primarily be used for shuttling the kids around, so safety is the main concern. I was interested in the web-spoke wheels only for cosmetic reasons.

Do folks agree that the all-seasons would be safer in a cold and rainy (but not snowy/icy) environment? I guess I'm trying to decide now if I should get the A/S with the 5-spoke and save $500, or get the web-spoke with summer tires. I appreciate any thoughts.
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Oct 1, 2008 | 04:55 AM
  #5  
All seasons win in cold. Good summer tires can be just as good or better in rain (when not cold). But you'll get a more comfortable ride AND probably better grip, more hydroplaning resistance, etc. with aftermarket non-runflat tires.

I'm a HUGE fan of the Goodyear F1 All Seasons - expensive, but fantastic.

My recommendation - order and take delivery of car with webspokes and summer runflats. Take it to the tire store and have runflat summers swapped for Goodyear F1 AS. Sell the runflats on the forum here for about as much as you paid for the Goodyears. Be happy.
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Oct 1, 2008 | 05:09 AM
  #6  
Quote: All seasons win in cold. Good summer tires can be just as good or better in rain (when not cold). But you'll get a more comfortable ride AND probably better grip, more hydroplaning resistance, etc. with aftermarket non-runflat tires.

I'm a HUGE fan of the Goodyear F1 All Seasons - expensive, but fantastic.

My recommendation - order and take delivery of car with webspokes and summer runflats. Take it to the tire store and have runflat summers swapped for Goodyear F1 AS. Sell the runflats on the forum here for about as much as you paid for the Goodyears. Be happy.
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Oct 1, 2008 | 07:33 AM
  #7  
That is interesting, because they are available with the 17" Pace wheels. I have them on mine and like them.
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Oct 2, 2008 | 02:43 PM
  #8  
Does it have anything to do with them being a multi-piece rim and mini worried about the salt. I just picked up a set of S-winders with A/S for my winter driving
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