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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by k_h_d
After approaching traffic and slowing to moderate speeds he then again blows by me like he is something special.
Ahh...Sadly enough, that is a very common practice around here. The technical term for that is called a "ricer flyby". It's where an idiot in a slow car gets beat by a faster car, then after you let off and brake for a few seconds, he finally catches up and flys past you in attempt to restore his ego.

Civic and Neon drivers are notoriously known for this practice...

Here is a great example:
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...948329a895.htm
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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hahaha

I had no idea Ricer Flyby was a nation wide term.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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and dude, cooper, get on aim
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by k_h_d
Why do teenagers act like punk kids some times? I am driving in my 911 Targa (86) and some punk kid in a dinky cavalier comes flying up my tail like he is going to race me. I decide to play a little and drop it down into 2nd and run through the gears through 3rd. After approaching traffic and slowing to moderate speeds he then again blows by me like he is something special.

What is it that makes punk kids think they need to race? At least he was not in a Mini... I doubt if I were in my MCS he would have felt the need to do such stupid things.
Let me get this straight.....when a teenager speeds, he is a "punk kid" but when you speed it is just "playing around". I'm not sure I see the distinction.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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I had a siimilar incident one night when I was stopped on a six lane road at a light one night when two primered Hondas with the typical ricer stuff (these cars fit the stereo types so well it was a joke) pulled up next to me and started reving. I ignored them because I knew the road was patrolled heavily enough and they weren't worth my time. What surprised me was how when the light turned green and I took off like normal they barely pulled on me until I was near the speed limit. If your car at full throttle can't do anything to a car at 3/4 throttle there's a problem. I had to back off since I was afraid if a cop heard all the noise those two were making and saw me near them I'd get a ticket too.

As far as people driving Porches and other somewhat rare cars go I'll admit sometimes I'll manuever through traffic so that I can get a better look and maybe shoot the driver a thumbs up. I know where my car fits in the automotive food chain and have the (horrible) time slips to prove it. Maybe I can get a roof graphic of my best timeslip so there's be no question what the car can do.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred911
Let me get this straight.....when a teenager speeds, he is a "punk kid" but when you speed it is just "playing around". I'm not sure I see the distinction.

He is a punk kid because my wife and I are just driving a long and several times he flys up to my tail at well over the speed limit and get within 10 feet of me before slowing down. He could of at least been in a modified ricer or something else. But it was a dinky cavalier.

Exceeding the speed limit with no traffic around and while being catious is one thing. What he was doing was an entirely different situation.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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People challenge me occasionally in both the MINI and my '73 Mach 1. The way I look at it, both cars are way cooler doing the speed limit than anything that commonly makes the challenge when they are speeding.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:30 AM
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Im just happy if another Mini is on the road, Ill manuever through traffic to give a thumbs up. Otherwise, I leave it at the track
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Im just happy if another Mini is on the road, Ill manuever through traffic to give a thumbs up. Otherwise, I leave it at the track
I was top-down motoring yesterday when another MINI pulled up alongside and the passenger gave me a small wave. I responded with a "whole-arm-outside-the-car" straight-arm fingers-spread wave and a sh*t-eating grin. I could tell the people in the other MINI got a kick out of it, because as they passed by, I could see the driver laughing and mimicking my wave to his passenger.

I may be a goof, but who cares??
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Free Spirit
So yes, just because you are in a MINI people do want to race you. I don't want to put my life or others in danger.


Must be those fancy "racing stripes" on the MINI bonnets just telling those Hondas ...

"Look at me! I'm a RACE CAR"
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chows4us


Must be those fancy "racing stripes" on the MINI bonnets just telling those Hondas ...

"Look at me! I'm a RACE CAR"
No I think its the fact that the Mini is a Rally car. People want to challege it. If we got those honda's on the track they couldnt take the twists like a mini can!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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No I think its the fact that the Mini is a Rally car. People want to challege it. If we got those honda's on the track they couldnt take the twists like a mini can!
Uhhmm, with all due respect. How many people out there have a clue as to MINI's Rally heritage? Seriously? Maybe ... 3?

No, its those fake racing stripes, not the rally stripes, but the other imitations. They say: "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" ...

I refused to put on stripes because I didn't want to imitate Vipers or Shelbys, etc. However, the original #37 DID have rally stripes but not viper stripes or all the other kinds you see.

Its the stripes ...

"Hey dude ... check out the car with the racing stripes ... he must be FAST, lets go clean his clock"

hehe

Racing stripes on a street car is making a pretty bold statement.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Funniest story I read about this...

was in an old issue of Motortrend I think. They editors were testing a couple of european exotics (an Aston Martin Vanquish, a SL65AMG, and something else...M5 maybe.. ?) in the desert (looked like Utah or New Mexico to me). They were out in 'the middle of nowhere' driving for camera-men and such when they pulled into a gas station.

In said gas station were a 'gaggle of imports' that were apparently held together with more 'bondo and duct tape' than welds. The editor made a bunch of funny quips about them, but only a sentence or two... and then...

The editors proceed to leave the gas station calmly, no racing at all, and start driving to the next town (which was a long way away). They are ALSO testing high-speed characteristics of these uber-cars when what doth appear in the rear view, but two of the cars from the gas station...

The author described it better, but from what I remember, they were calmly travelling at the midrange of 1XXmph (which is really no work for a big GT car) and the honda appeared alongside ABSOLUTELY SCREAMING trying to keep up. After about 20 minutes of this (honda screaming at this speed, Aston kind of burbling along), the honda proceeds to send a con-rod/piston/whatever thru the hood of his car, and rolls to a stop... The three big super-cars just keep rolling, baffled by this strange occurance (none of them apprently change course or speed at all during the whole event!).

Now if that isn't dumb, I dunno what is... I'll keep looking for the article, but its hard to find as it was a side-note to the major test.... Either way, it was really funny.

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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrem
No I think its the fact that the Mini is a Rally car. People want to challege it. If we got those honda's on the track they couldnt take the twists like a mini can!
Actually a well preped honda is on par or better at the track than a MINI in the hands ofa good drvier.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Yea the bonnet stripes on a MINI will drive any typical ricer into thinking you are a race car that is completely modified. Oddly they don't understand that its an option the car has from the dealership! :P

I currently drive a Tiburon and I fear that I will grab an insane amount of backlash with my new MINI coming in feb. Chili Red w/ Black Bonnet.

As of right now I get the rev treatment at the stoplights all the time but I Just laugh at them since I know i'm in a blah car..

But what will add to the quotient is that I am half korean.. An korean kid in a chili red mini with black bonnet stripes.. Oh boy.. I'm just asking for the honda's to rev next to me now :impatient (Poking at myself and myself only so don't take offense if you are in the same situation)
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by erickvonzipper
People challenge me occasionally in both the MINI and my '73 Mach 1. The way I look at it, both cars are way cooler doing the speed limit than anything that commonly makes the challenge when they are speeding.
**** man, another 73' Mach and MINI owner, what are the odds?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Stupid question time--what are "pinks?"
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
Stupid question time--what are "pinks?"
"Pink Slips", back when car titles used to be pink (at least in some states). Basically, "racing for pinks" means that the winner gets the loser's car.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by daffodildeb
Stupid question time--what are "pinks?"
A TV show on the Speed Channel

Its an old term, I think from CA, where the title was pink in color.

So if you race for pinks, you raced for the other persons car.

There is a show on the Speed Channel where they do this.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Motor On
Actually a well preped honda is on par or better at the track than a MINI in the hands ofa good drvier.
Ah, but what about an apples-to-apples comparison? Something like a well-prepped MINI vs. a well-prepped Honda - both in capable hands? Tighter course, I would put my $ on the MINI.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by caminifan
Ah, but what about an apples-to-apples comparison? Something like a well-prepped MINI vs. a well-prepped Honda - both in capable hands? Tighter course, I would put my $ on the MINI.
Ever watch pinks on Speed TV? Some of those Hondas, I believe, are faster than FBTs. Can they handle on a road course? Dunno but dont get suckered into just thinking a fart can means a slow car.

Why is it always the "tighter course thing"? There is a reason the RING is the ultimate test for road cars. A reason all the top automakers go there to test their cars. A honda Civic Type R (current gen) car is 8 seconds quicker than a JCW.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Why is it always the "tighter course thing"? There is a reason the RING is the ultimate test for road cars. A reason all the top automakers go there to test their cars. A honda Civic Type R (current gen) car is 8 seconds quicker than a JCW.
Hmm, eight seconds faster on a course where 8 minutes is considered an excellent lap time - not much of a spread. Plus the current-gen Type R is about $34,000, which is significantly more expensive than a JCW.

I'd consider the lap time difference to be well within the margin of error for driver ability, and the Honda costs $5-6k more. Yawn...
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by caminifan
Ah, but what about an apples-to-apples comparison? Something like a well-prepped MINI vs. a well-prepped Honda - both in capable hands? Tighter course, I would put my $ on the MINI.
Actually they were both well prepped and the MINI was beaten by the honda On a road course

Not to mention the most recent honda civic that comes to memory from the dragstrip was gutted turboed and ran a 9.somehting when it was 90 degrees and humid.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Actually a well preped honda is on par or better at the track than a MINI in the hands ofa good drvier.

ya I was about to say.. my little crx will out handle the mini anyday haha. its just not as fun to drive.
 
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