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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Looks like what we can all learn from this thread; there's no right or wrong way to drive a stick, so as long as you don't burn the cluth.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aDeLoreanGuy
This is actually a bad idea. It's like not wearing your seat belt because you are only going a few miles. For DSC, it does more then just keep you in control when you loose traction on poor surfaces. It also keeps you in control during emergency maneuvers (such as really fast lane changes). There are plenty of videos out there that show how a DSC system will prevent the car from skidding out of control on dry pavement during emergency situations.
Ugh...not another jump to conclusion post. Please read the entire thread and try, please try and put things into context before you quickly judge and disregard.

When I suggested DSC off, it was in response to the OP's original thread and 1st question.
Originally Posted by rachaelstarr
1) I feel like I really have to step on it and shift like a mad man to keep up with other traffic off the line when a light turns green... what's up with this? Am I just not shifting fast enough..?
Sometimes having DSC on can be intrusive, and can slow you down. Turning off the DSC can stop some of the stutter, some may experience shooting off the line from a dead stop.

Since Rachel is also in southern California where it rarely ever rains, snows, or sleets, having DSC off most of the time on regular freeways and roads will not endanger her. But I did say, turn DSC off unless it's raining or going around tight turns.

Many people buy switches that automatically turn their DSC off. So it's not an uncommon thing to do.

Here are some interesting threads in regards to DSC. I hope this is beneficial to expanding knowledge of what is possible and to understand both sides of the argument.

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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I'll solve this right now! I don't have DSC :D

But, I have read threads about the DSC inhibiting certain things, so I understand where you are coming from in suggesting it's off for a faster takeoff.

On another note, I got through break in today >:D
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexster05
Ugh...not another jump to conclusion post. Please read the entire thread and try, please try and put things into context before you quickly judge and disregard.

When I suggested DSC off, it was in response to the OP's original thread and 1st question.
No jumping there. I was just saying that disabling a safety device that works in all conditions (not just slick conditions as you suggested) is not a good idea.

Originally Posted by Lexster05
Sometimes having DSC on can be intrusive, and can slow you down. Turning off the DSC can stop some of the stutter, some may experience shooting off the line from a dead stop.
That's traction control you are referring to, not DSC. Traction control takes effect when it detects wheel spin. This prevents you from loosing additional traction in slippery situations. Unfortunately it's way too sensitive and goes off under sharp corners with heavy acceleration. This is what most people complain about. With Rachael, since she is probably talking about straight lines and regular traffic, it's probably just a clutch/gas issue where she's keeping the revs too low.

Originally Posted by Lexster05
Since Rachel is also in southern California where it rarely ever rains, snows, or sleets, having DSC off most of the time on regular freeways and roads will not endanger her. But I did say, turn DSC off unless it's raining or going around tight turns.
Again, unless she drives on perfect roads that never have gravel, oil, or require any urgent/sudden changes in direction, DSC can be helpful in keeping control of the vehicle. Yes, many people disable them, but those devices are intended for use on the track where loosing control isn't as hazardous.

Sorry for taking this thread off topic, but I just wanted to make sure people weren't confusing DSC and traction control. Here's a great link that talks about what DSC does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro...bility_control
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Deutsch
Looks like what we can all learn from this thread; there's no right or wrong way to drive a stick, so as long as you don't burn the cluth.


Originally Posted by rachaelstarr

On another note, I got through break in today >:D
WooHoo!!!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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I've traveled 1400 miles as of today. Am I finished with the break-in period?
 
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