R50/53 Hello from an SRT-4 owner! (little long)
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Originally Posted by danielg
most impressive is that he tripled his stock HP!
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Originally Posted by mybroscoop
with the basic twincharge kit (250 whp) the car handles like stock, just gotta be easy on the gas pedal coming out of a turn!!
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Originally Posted by CooperSigma
Am I am one of the few who think that a RWD or AWD Mini would be damn fun? Because then that power would be put to a lot more use.
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Originally Posted by CooperSigma
Am I am one of the few who think that a RWD or AWD Mini would be damn fun? Because then that power would be put to a lot more use.
Imagine the laucnhing capabilities of an awd twincharged MINI!
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Originally Posted by CooperSigma
Am I am one of the few who think that a RWD or AWD Mini would be damn fun? Because then that power would be put to a lot more use.
I also agree with your remarks about huge HP increases to the mini. It's designed and balanced for the power it has. You can add 20% more or so and you can still maintain the balance of the stock systems such as brakes, suspension, etc.... But triple the power and you end up with a funny car.. that loses drivability and that feel of balance.
Some may argue this and thats fine... I have learned my lessons the hard way and stick by my experiences...
Of course having a mini with 300+ hp would be a hoot.... but it would take a lot of money and work to bring the reat of the car in balance with the power. And you will still end up with the limitations of FWD.
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Originally Posted by C4
Yeah, but don't you think having a RWD or AWD MINI will take away that "something" special about the car?
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Originally Posted by mikem53
I agree that RWD offers better handling and performance than FWD. A RWD mini would be nice but it would have a large impact on cost, interior room and power. Sending power to the rear wheels robs HP and AWD is complex, heavy and expensive.
I also agree with your remarks about huge HP increases to the mini. It's designed and balanced for the power it has. You can add 20% more or so and you can still maintain the balance of the stock systems such as brakes, suspension, etc.... But triple the power and you end up with a funny car.. that loses drivability and that feel of balance.
Some may argue this and thats fine... I have learned my lessons the hard way and stick by my experiences...
Of course having a mini with 300+ hp would be a hoot.... but it would take a lot of money and work to bring the reat of the car in balance with the power. And you will still end up with the limitations of FWD.
I also agree with your remarks about huge HP increases to the mini. It's designed and balanced for the power it has. You can add 20% more or so and you can still maintain the balance of the stock systems such as brakes, suspension, etc.... But triple the power and you end up with a funny car.. that loses drivability and that feel of balance.
Some may argue this and thats fine... I have learned my lessons the hard way and stick by my experiences...
Of course having a mini with 300+ hp would be a hoot.... but it would take a lot of money and work to bring the reat of the car in balance with the power. And you will still end up with the limitations of FWD.
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slo neon -
Congrats on discovering the MINI ...although, watch out ...you might become obsessed once you go for a test drive!!
Yes, many cars are much faster in a straight line, but the MINI brings everything together in balance like no other car I test drove - including the Nissan 350Z.
I have done quite a few mods to my MINI Cooper S, and yes you can hear the supercharger without doing any mods. However, if you really dig the sound - then by all means - replace the stock air in-take with a more open, aftermarket CAI. I put in a K&N Typhoon and the supercharger whine became much louder. Once I installed an Alta 15% smaller supercharger pulley it got EVEN LOUDER!!
The stock exhaust note on MINI S's used to be pretty lame (way too quite) but I think it may have been improved on newer models. I have a 2003, so I replaced the stock exhaust with an Invidia catback system and really love it. It's nice and throaty and burrbles beautifully when you come off-throttle... not to mention a nice little increase in power once you get the RPMs up.
I'd say go for a test drive. I think you'll really like what you experience - and you're Neon's days will be numbered.
Cheers bro' - - m
Congrats on discovering the MINI
...although, watch out ...you might become obsessed once you go for a test drive!!Yes, many cars are much faster in a straight line, but the MINI brings everything together in balance like no other car I test drove - including the Nissan 350Z.
I have done quite a few mods to my MINI Cooper S, and yes you can hear the supercharger without doing any mods. However, if you really dig the sound - then by all means - replace the stock air in-take with a more open, aftermarket CAI. I put in a K&N Typhoon and the supercharger whine became much louder. Once I installed an Alta 15% smaller supercharger pulley it got EVEN LOUDER!!
The stock exhaust note on MINI S's used to be pretty lame (way too quite) but I think it may have been improved on newer models. I have a 2003, so I replaced the stock exhaust with an Invidia catback system and really love it. It's nice and throaty and burrbles beautifully when you come off-throttle... not to mention a nice little increase in power once you get the RPMs up.
I'd say go for a test drive. I think you'll really like what you experience - and you're Neon's days will be numbered.
Cheers bro' - - m
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Originally Posted by mburchill36
slo neon -
Congrats on discovering the MINI ...although, watch out ...you might become obsessed once you go for a test drive!!
Yes, many cars are much faster in a straight line, but the MINI brings everything together in balance like no other car I test drove - including the Nissan 350Z.
I have done quite a few mods to my MINI Cooper S, and yes you can hear the supercharger without doing any mods. However, if you really dig the sound - then by all means - replace the stock air in-take with a more open, aftermarket CAI. I put in a K&N Typhoon and the supercharger whine became much louder. Once I installed an Alta 15% smaller supercharger pulley it got EVEN LOUDER!!
The stock exhaust note on MINI S's used to be pretty lame (way too quite) but I think it may have been improved on newer models. I have a 2003, so I replaced the stock exhaust with an Invidia catback system and really love it. It's nice and throaty and burrbles beautifully when you come off-throttle... not to mention a nice little increase in power once you get the RPMs up.
I'd say go for a test drive. I think you'll really like what you experience - and you're Neon's days will be numbered.
Cheers bro' - - m
Congrats on discovering the MINI
...although, watch out ...you might become obsessed once you go for a test drive!!Yes, many cars are much faster in a straight line, but the MINI brings everything together in balance like no other car I test drove - including the Nissan 350Z.
I have done quite a few mods to my MINI Cooper S, and yes you can hear the supercharger without doing any mods. However, if you really dig the sound - then by all means - replace the stock air in-take with a more open, aftermarket CAI. I put in a K&N Typhoon and the supercharger whine became much louder. Once I installed an Alta 15% smaller supercharger pulley it got EVEN LOUDER!!
The stock exhaust note on MINI S's used to be pretty lame (way too quite) but I think it may have been improved on newer models. I have a 2003, so I replaced the stock exhaust with an Invidia catback system and really love it. It's nice and throaty and burrbles beautifully when you come off-throttle... not to mention a nice little increase in power once you get the RPMs up.
I'd say go for a test drive. I think you'll really like what you experience - and you're Neon's days will be numbered.
Cheers bro' - - m
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Originally Posted by CooperSigma
Another thing I find amusing is that a stock Z06 will run mid to high 12's with a decent driver with less power.
Ummmm, so Tuls, where's this "rape" supposed to be happening exactly?
Ummmm, so Tuls, where's this "rape" supposed to be happening exactly?
but you in true vet lovers fasion, will not belive it till you see it...so, as soon as I can get video I will
'm "doubtful" because you're attempting to say that a ridiculously modified(I sincerely, sincerely doubt that this "super-Mini" you're talking about is even remotely streetable) car is the equal of a stock Corvette. I love Corvettes a lot more than I love my Mini, so to me that's a sign of respect for the Corvette that you're attempting to make that comparison. Hey, you had to spend over ten thousand dollars to get a Mini Cooper to perform like a Z06. Awesome!
Not to mention, I bet that the handling our cars are so famed for, is out the window with it making that much power. Oops!
Not to mention, I bet that the handling our cars are so famed for, is out the window with it making that much power. Oops!
Secondly, again, I'd like to ask you for links to proof of this "super Mini". Ten bucks says its engine bay doesn't remotely resemble a stock cars, thus rendering the comparison moot, since a modified(hey, let's compare apples to apples after all) Z06 will rape an entire fleet of "super Mini's" and still have time to do nearly 180 mph on the drive home.
As well, you bring up twincharging. Hmmmm, you asked me to use the "search" function. Well, doing so brought up a bunch of threads where the people who HAVE twincharged their cars keep having to have them towed to the shop because something else broke. So sad.
Also, search for 430WHP
For the price of a twin-charging set-up installed on a new Mini Cooper S, you could have a lightly used Sti. Therefore, that's not a smart use of money in my opinion.
nother thing I find amusing is that a stock Z06 will run mid to high 12's with a decent driver with less power.
as for the dyno run with 426WHP yeah it was on the bottle I stated that. With out it it was 350 WHP
and what is your stigma with the bottle...I mean...MOST vet guys I know...(and yes there are alot cause every weekend we have a show here and there are a minimum of 25 vets)...all the ones with upgrades are running NOS...all the ZO6 guys...
Am I am one of the few who think that a RWD or AWD Mini would be damn fun? Because then that power would be put to a lot more use
but I am a road race guy ...and the throttle for me is not an on off switch...it's a feather...it's called car control....and even with AWD it's still nessisary...every guy I met last year with an EVO totaled it...LOL
cause they think just cause it's AWD it's more drivable...don't get me wrong...I enjoyed drifting a 400 hp evo...but in the end both the evo and sti are cheap and plastic...bang for the buck even after spending 6K on top of the cost of a mini...it's a better car...in my opinion
I think that comes from the fact that when you are going 120 in an american car...say the viper....YOU KNOW IT...the car is noisy and twitchy...but in a euro car...say the COOPER not S when you are going say...130...funny thing is you can just sit back with one hand on the wheel and use the other to sip some tea...
if you don't know this, you prolly haven't expirenced the two. I have expirenced both...and although I LOVE the viper...in the words of Jeremy Clarkson
"owning a viper is as silly and wonderful as owning an elephant"
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There are so many responses that I could make above that would make your inane meanderings look pointless, but there's no point. Once a groupie, always a groupie.
Sorry, Tuls, seems to me that you're just bagging Hubie's groceries. Didn't mean to come in and burst your hero-worship bubble.
Tell you what. Let's take the exact amount of money that "Hubie" has spent on the ridiculous task of destroying the Mini's handling characteristics, and apply that to a Corvette's suspension.
There'd be a definitely different story happening in a Mini vs. Vette in the twisties comparison. End of story.
Maybe you should stop being such a follower and do some research, thanks.
Sorry, Tuls, seems to me that you're just bagging Hubie's groceries. Didn't mean to come in and burst your hero-worship bubble.
Tell you what. Let's take the exact amount of money that "Hubie" has spent on the ridiculous task of destroying the Mini's handling characteristics, and apply that to a Corvette's suspension.
There'd be a definitely different story happening in a Mini vs. Vette in the twisties comparison. End of story.
Maybe you should stop being such a follower and do some research, thanks.
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P.S. Jeremy Clarkson wouldn't know what to do with a Viper if his mother's life depended on it. That show is so anti-Domestic biased, it's ridiculous.
If you think a Viper is "twitchy" at 120, then you've obviously never been in one at that speed. I have, though.
Your entire response was garbage, thanks.
If you think a Viper is "twitchy" at 120, then you've obviously never been in one at that speed. I have, though.
Your entire response was garbage, thanks.
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Originally Posted by CooperSigma
There are so many responses that I could make above that would make your inane meanderings look pointless, but there's no point. Once a groupie, always a groupie.
Sorry, Tuls, seems to me that you're just bagging Hubie's groceries. Sorry I came in and burst your hero-worship bubble.
Tell you what. Let's take the exact amount of money that "Hubie" has spent on the ridiculous task of destroying the Mini's handling characteristics, and apply that to a Corvette's suspension.
There'd be a definitely different story happening in a Mini vs. Vette in the twisties comparison. End of story.
Maybe you should stop being such a follower and do some research, thanks.
Sorry, Tuls, seems to me that you're just bagging Hubie's groceries. Sorry I came in and burst your hero-worship bubble.
Tell you what. Let's take the exact amount of money that "Hubie" has spent on the ridiculous task of destroying the Mini's handling characteristics, and apply that to a Corvette's suspension.
There'd be a definitely different story happening in a Mini vs. Vette in the twisties comparison. End of story.
Maybe you should stop being such a follower and do some research, thanks.
P.S. Jeremy Clarkson wouldn't know what to do with a Viper if his mother's life depended on it. That show is so anti-Domestic biased, it's ridiculous.
If you think a Viper is "twitchy" at 120, then you've obviously never been in one at that speed. I have, though.
Your entire response was garbage, thanks. Today 11:21 AM
If you think a Viper is "twitchy" at 120, then you've obviously never been in one at that speed. I have, though.
Your entire response was garbage, thanks. Today 11:21 AM
thanks for joining our forum...it's been a while since we had someone to spout off random non-sense
If you think a Viper is "twitchy" at 120, then you've obviously never been in one at that speed. I have, though.
Your entire response was garbage, thanks.
Your entire response was garbage, thanks.
I will not argue with you anymore....this is petty...thanks for allowing me to show you the doors that are open...too bad you like to slam them shut...your loss
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Originally Posted by Tuls
LOL you insults are just that of the Vet guy you are..no basis...you don't know me...you don't know how many cars I have built...nor what I have raced...
hmmn...let's try vet speak...again spoken like a try groupie...once a groupie always a groupie...
thanks for joining our forum...it's been a while since we had someone to spout off random non-sense
hmmn...let's try vet speak...again spoken like a try groupie...once a groupie always a groupie...
thanks for joining our forum...it's been a while since we had someone to spout off random non-sense
Bottom line, Hubie's car is one in maybe fifty thousand. Whereas, there are hundreds and hundreds of Corvettes and other fast cars in the same price range as a severely modified Mini that turn better times.
You don't want to see that, that's fine.
Try blowing your sunshine up someone else's exit pal, because it's not working on me.
Plus, again, your talk of the Viper is laughable at best. Unlike you(apparently) I actually know people who have Vipers and have ridden in them and have seen no sign of this "twitch" you mentioned.
Also, you said that a Cooper(not the S) can do 130? Yeah, good luck doing that speed all day.
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I'm done with this silly pissing contest, Tuls. What amuses me is that you're just like several other people on this board "The Mini is the best car ever! Nothing is as cool or awesome as it!" And when somebody points out the hilariously bad logic in that statement, suddenly it's "Well you obviously hate the Mini, you're a groupie for some other brand!"
No. I'm a realist amongst a bunch of airhead groupies for THIS brand. Have a good one.
No. I'm a realist amongst a bunch of airhead groupies for THIS brand. Have a good one.
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I find it very strange...
... that an entire thread has been hijacked talking about 426WHP MINI's!?! I mean really, its a 2400lb FWD car designed to corner like a champ, and its forefather, the original MINI, conquered Monte Carlo with something like 80WHP! This car wasn't intended to haul around a HEMI, its a road-racing sort of car, not a drag strip queen.
If you want big HP, get a stage 3R SRT-4, STI, or even a 350Z, all of which will do the big-hp-thing better than the MINI any day. I have seen 225hp MINI's romping around, and on a clean, winding country road there are very few cars that will be as much fun to drive!
Oh, and as a side note, a honda CBR1000RR motorcycle will outrun damn near every car everyone has mentioned on this page, and it costs half of what the MINI costs, so quarter mile times mean very little in the end. (FYI its does the 1/4 in 10.24 and 0-60 in 2.92!)
If you want big HP, get a stage 3R SRT-4, STI, or even a 350Z, all of which will do the big-hp-thing better than the MINI any day. I have seen 225hp MINI's romping around, and on a clean, winding country road there are very few cars that will be as much fun to drive!
Oh, and as a side note, a honda CBR1000RR motorcycle will outrun damn near every car everyone has mentioned on this page, and it costs half of what the MINI costs, so quarter mile times mean very little in the end. (FYI its does the 1/4 in 10.24 and 0-60 in 2.92!)
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Originally Posted by CooperSigma
Plus, again, your talk of the Viper is laughable at best. Unlike you(apparently) I actually know people who have Vipers and have ridden in them and have seen no sign of this "twitch" you mentioned.
Also, you said that a Cooper(not the S) can do 130? Yeah, good luck doing that speed all day.
also Emis and I did 130 in her CVT cooper...for about...3 miles or so...and umm yeah...I never said all day...nor did I say that a 400 HP mini could beat anyting on the street...LOL...where do you get this stuff...
I'm done with this silly pissing contest, Tuls. What amuses me is that you're just like several other people on this board "The Mini is the best car ever! Nothing is as cool or awesome as it!" And when somebody points out the hilariously bad logic in that statement, suddenly it's "Well you obviously hate the Mini, you're a groupie for some other brand!"
No. I'm a realist amongst a bunch of airhead groupies for THIS brand. Have a good one.
No. I'm a realist amongst a bunch of airhead groupies for THIS brand. Have a good one.
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LOL good point
Originally Posted by RallyMINI2005
... that an entire thread has been hijacked talking about 426WHP MINI's!?! I mean really, its a 2400lb FWD car designed to corner like a champ, and its forefather, the original MINI, conquered Monte Carlo with something like 80WHP! This car wasn't intended to haul around a HEMI, its a road-racing sort of car, not a drag strip queen.
If you want big HP, get a stage 3R SRT-4, STI, or even a 350Z, all of which will do the big-hp-thing better than the MINI any day. I have seen 225hp MINI's romping around, and on a clean, winding country road there are very few cars that will be as much fun to drive!
Oh, and as a side note, a honda CBR1000RR motorcycle will outrun damn near every car everyone has mentioned on this page, and it costs half of what the MINI costs, so quarter mile times mean very little in the end. (FYI its does the 1/4 in 10.24 and 0-60 in 2.92!)
If you want big HP, get a stage 3R SRT-4, STI, or even a 350Z, all of which will do the big-hp-thing better than the MINI any day. I have seen 225hp MINI's romping around, and on a clean, winding country road there are very few cars that will be as much fun to drive!
Oh, and as a side note, a honda CBR1000RR motorcycle will outrun damn near every car everyone has mentioned on this page, and it costs half of what the MINI costs, so quarter mile times mean very little in the end. (FYI its does the 1/4 in 10.24 and 0-60 in 2.92!)
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Originally Posted by Tuls
Oh wou got to wide in one...awww dats sooo cuute...I have driven them...two different things
also Emis and I did 130 in her CVT cooper...for about...3 miles or so...and umm yeah...I never said all day...nor did I say that a 400 HP mini could beat anyting on the street...LOL...where do you get this stuff...
also Emis and I did 130 in her CVT cooper...for about...3 miles or so...and umm yeah...I never said all day...nor did I say that a 400 HP mini could beat anyting on the street...LOL...where do you get this stuff...
"I'm a road-racer! I don't do stoplight racing, yet I worship a Mini that runs a decently fast quarter mile time! What? Yeah I know quarter miles are run from a sto...what? My logic is wack? Yeah, I know."
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enough said TULS, good job
Originally Posted by Tuls
again I said NOT from a dig...ofcourse you can't beat RWD with FWD from a dig...well in most cases...athough I have done it repeatedly..hmmn...now I am confused
but you in true vet lovers fasion, will not belive it till you see it...so, as soon as I can get video I will
the min is VERY streetable...it's an accualy DAILY for Hubie...infact right now is on it's like 6th trip accross the USA from the NYC area
I am tired of have to give "proof" cause as ussualy even if I did...you will continue to be a non beliver...Hubie is well known....you are new so maybe you should show a little respect
yeah you pioneer something and see what breaks...you think if you made a vet runn at 300% it wouldn't break...but now that there has been a few eggs broken the Minis are running great...haven't broken since...
Also, search for 430WHP
hey that's your opinion...I have driven STIs I think they are cheap and plastic...the only thing it's got is AWD...sorry that's too much money for one good thing...
wrong again...that 12 was run with only 320 WHP no nos and oh yeah THE WRONG SIZED TIRES...it was the first time the car was draged....wow not bad...hmmn
as for the dyno run with 426WHP yeah it was on the bottle I stated that. With out it it was 350 WHP
and what is your stigma with the bottle...I mean...MOST vet guys I know...(and yes there are alot cause every weekend we have a show here and there are a minimum of 25 vets)...all the ones with upgrades are running NOS...all the ZO6 guys...
the only difference would be from a dig...once you are moving it's a non-issue.
but I am a road race guy ...and the throttle for me is not an on off switch...it's a feather...it's called car control....and even with AWD it's still nessisary...every guy I met last year with an EVO totaled it...LOL cause they think just cause it's AWD it's more drivable...don't get me wrong...I enjoyed drifting a 400 hp evo...but in the end both the evo and sti are cheap and plastic...
bang for the buck even after spending 6K on top of the cost of a mini...it's a better car...in my opinion
I think that comes from the fact that when you are going 120 in an american car...say the viper....YOU KNOW IT...the car is noisy and twitchy...but in a euro car...say the COOPER not S when you are going say...130...funny thing is you can just sit back with one hand on the wheel and use the other to sip some tea...
if you don't know this, you prolly haven't expirenced the two. I have expirenced both...and although I LOVE the viper...in the words of Jeremy Clarkson
"owning a viper is as silly and wonderful as owning an elephant"
but you in true vet lovers fasion, will not belive it till you see it...so, as soon as I can get video I will
the min is VERY streetable...it's an accualy DAILY for Hubie...infact right now is on it's like 6th trip accross the USA from the NYC area
I am tired of have to give "proof" cause as ussualy even if I did...you will continue to be a non beliver...Hubie is well known....you are new so maybe you should show a little respect
yeah you pioneer something and see what breaks...you think if you made a vet runn at 300% it wouldn't break...but now that there has been a few eggs broken the Minis are running great...haven't broken since...
Also, search for 430WHP
hey that's your opinion...I have driven STIs I think they are cheap and plastic...the only thing it's got is AWD...sorry that's too much money for one good thing...
wrong again...that 12 was run with only 320 WHP no nos and oh yeah THE WRONG SIZED TIRES...it was the first time the car was draged....wow not bad...hmmn
as for the dyno run with 426WHP yeah it was on the bottle I stated that. With out it it was 350 WHP
and what is your stigma with the bottle...I mean...MOST vet guys I know...(and yes there are alot cause every weekend we have a show here and there are a minimum of 25 vets)...all the ones with upgrades are running NOS...all the ZO6 guys...
the only difference would be from a dig...once you are moving it's a non-issue.
but I am a road race guy ...and the throttle for me is not an on off switch...it's a feather...it's called car control....and even with AWD it's still nessisary...every guy I met last year with an EVO totaled it...LOL
cause they think just cause it's AWD it's more drivable...don't get me wrong...I enjoyed drifting a 400 hp evo...but in the end both the evo and sti are cheap and plastic...bang for the buck even after spending 6K on top of the cost of a mini...it's a better car...in my opinion
I think that comes from the fact that when you are going 120 in an american car...say the viper....YOU KNOW IT...the car is noisy and twitchy...but in a euro car...say the COOPER not S when you are going say...130...funny thing is you can just sit back with one hand on the wheel and use the other to sip some tea...
if you don't know this, you prolly haven't expirenced the two. I have expirenced both...and although I LOVE the viper...in the words of Jeremy Clarkson
"owning a viper is as silly and wonderful as owning an elephant"
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I recommend having both .
A decently modified Cooper S will pull what a stock SRT can through the quarter. By putting a smaller pulley on the S/C you will get the whine you are talking about. I have a 19% reduction pulley on mine and its loud when you get on it hard <so I hear
> To hear one of the best quality and sounding exhausts, simply click here http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/mini/vi..._MCS_FLYBY.mov but be warned.. it aint cheap.
As for the SRT-4, I am going with Mopar Stage III coilovers and already have front and rear sways with rear tenstion struts. Hope that fixes some of the handling but the steering will always be unsure.. at some point I guess I will have to just trust and go for it..
.A decently modified Cooper S will pull what a stock SRT can through the quarter. By putting a smaller pulley on the S/C you will get the whine you are talking about. I have a 19% reduction pulley on mine and its loud when you get on it hard <so I hear
> To hear one of the best quality and sounding exhausts, simply click here http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/mini/vi..._MCS_FLYBY.mov but be warned.. it aint cheap.As for the SRT-4, I am going with Mopar Stage III coilovers and already have front and rear sways with rear tenstion struts. Hope that fixes some of the handling but the steering will always be unsure.. at some point I guess I will have to just trust and go for it..