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R50/53 Car goes into gear won't move, manual transmission

Old Dec 1, 2025 | 09:02 AM
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its raining here today but i'll try and get a vid of mine
 
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 09:18 AM
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watching the video a couple times fullscreen it looks like it might be weeping where the piston meets the transmission, also just verified my brake res is well below max which i believe is an issue as the clutch hydraulic line feeds farther up the res than the brakes.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JustinR
watching the video a couple times fullscreen it looks like it might be weeping where the piston meets the transmission, also just verified my brake res is well below max which i believe is an issue as the clutch hydraulic line feeds farther up the res than the brakes.
Tried to bleed it using the 2 person method and it didn't make a difference, really think i'm looking at dropping the transmission again, well good news it's all fresh in my mind.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 06:18 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 06:22 PM
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it's interesting to me how far to the right in it's relaxed state yours is vs mine which is more straight up and down.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 06:25 PM
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also yours presses to the center of the motion where mine starts there and pushes out past center.... hmmm.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 06:42 PM
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I noticed that. but I can't tell if it's just camera angle.

it does look like they both move the same amount

I hate to say this, but I had this same / similar issue (on a different car however). it was the clutch kit. the geometry was off. it only takes millimeters

hoping someone has a better thought
 
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Old Dec 2, 2025 | 09:33 AM
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these bits could also be the root cause. some of them wear items


 
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Old Dec 4, 2025 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ssoliman
these bits could also be the root cause. some of them wear items

Woof that clutch release fork is a dumb expensive part.....
 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 12:21 AM
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Thoughts?

 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 01:53 AM
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I would change part #5 and #6, the plastic bushings. Otherwise looks fine to me. Do check beforehand if the bolt holding the fork will come out. These can seize up
 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 07:07 AM
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the clutch is back out?

if so you can take some measurements. compare the geometry from the old clutch to the new. the depth of the flywheel. the position of the tines (i cant spell). I think you see where i'm going here

replacing the wear parts here is a good practice
 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JustinR
seems to be functioning as needed
 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 07:16 AM
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yeah i'm going to pull the pressure plate and clutch back off compare and then make sure i didn't screw up torquing them down.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 09:27 AM
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Just though about it now, I had a similar experience with a new clutch kit. It fitted and looked the same but once installed I couldn't shift while the engine was running. It turned out to be the new clutch kit.

I found my old post here. Maybe it's of some kind of help.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2025 | 06:51 PM
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Hate when i make stupid mistakes... Almost positive i figured out my issue. When i went to take off the pressure plate bolts they were just a tad more snug than finger tight. My brother didnt torque them on when he was hanging the pressure plate and clutch onto the flywheel. I need to get some blue locktite tomorrow but i feel thats why the clutch couldnt disengage. Going to also torque them but would probably find out the torque spec.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 04:49 PM
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Update:

Pleased to announce after dropping the transmission and torquing the pressure plate bolts down and replacing and power bleeding the slave the car is now driving. Time to finish gutting the interior and getting it ready for a roll cage to be welded in.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2025 | 09:06 PM
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Well done sir 👍
 
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 05:58 AM
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good work. much better than having to replace the kit.

what cage is going in?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2025 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ssoliman
good work. much better than having to replace the kit.

what cage is going in?
will be a custom welded cage built for 24 Hours of Lemons, likely will purchase a pre bent and notched kit from a place called Roll Cage Components.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2025 | 07:08 AM
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cool. that sounds like a good photo opp
 
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