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Oct 19, 2018 | 11:07 AM

jk6672

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Make over

Oct 19, 2018 | 11:34 AM

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Can I have access to your bank account?

Oct 19, 2018 | 11:56 AM

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Can I have access to your bank account?

so you’re the one making blanks of my cards

Oct 20, 2018 | 03:38 PM

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Are you doing the front main seal and the idler pulley as well? A little extra cost, but since you are adding all the above might as well take care of both of those at the same time.

Oct 20, 2018 | 04:55 PM

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Front main seal yes, but I didn’t buy an idler pulley. I’m doing the SC because I want more, and upgrading crank pulley because I think it’s failing. Smelt a rubbery burn and belt squeal.

Oct 20, 2018 | 10:14 PM

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I replace my idler pulley at 123k miles. It was just starting to have issues. It not much extra work when you have the balancer off to replace it.

Oct 20, 2018 | 10:31 PM

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I replace my idler pulley at 123k miles. It was just starting to have issues. It not much extra work when you have the balancer off to replace it.

yeah, after you brought it up, and a little looking around, I ordered a gates off of amazon. Thanks for the heads up, I’d hate to have done the work and a couple thousand miles down the road have to replace it.

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Oct 20, 2018 | 11:51 PM

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What is the condition of the upper and lower motor mounts? They would be the other items to look at if they haven't been replaced/inspected recently. When you do the tensioner and supercharger pulley its just a few extra bolts to remove the upper if you need to.

Oct 21, 2018 | 12:05 AM

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The upper looks good according to what I’ve read. There’s a gap and no black stuff leaking out of it.

Oct 21, 2018 | 12:13 AM

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If it happens to be a preface lift car the upper mount will not leak that I've seen. I'm pretty sure its just a soild mount. The face lift changed the upper mounts some with the major being the change to a fluid filled upper mount and the brakets from the mount to the motor.

Oct 21, 2018 | 12:16 AM

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I don’t know what a preface lift is, but It’s a 2004.

Oct 21, 2018 | 12:41 AM

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Here is an example of a preface lift upper motor mount setup. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post3863869

Post face lift example can been seen here. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4170277

Which one do you have? My 2004 r53 is a preface lift due to its build date and equipment.

Oct 21, 2018 | 12:52 AM

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I have a pre facelift then. Two spoke steering wheel and my xenon lights don’t have a projector lense, and many more differences I found here:

https://www.allmagautoparts.com/blog...-changes-guide

so, how do you tell when a solid one needs to be changed?

Oct 21, 2018 | 01:10 AM

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A look at the upper mounts, as there are two of them, should give you at least a basic idea to their condition. The one on the frame near the tensioner can be hard to tell without lifting the motor due to its position. If you do replace it make sure you get the replacement hardware as some are considered single use.

There are several guides out there on how to replace them. I used Pelican Parts' guide found here https://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...eplacement.htm

Oct 21, 2018 | 01:27 AM

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Do the liquid and solid look the same because this is what mine look like

https://goo.gl/images/9CQxx1

I read somewhere if your going to replace them these are the way to go:

https://www.vibra-technics.co.uk/min...53_12_03_07_06

Oct 21, 2018 | 01:39 AM

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Here are the soild mounts https://www.waymotorworks.com/oem-en...4-r50-r53.html Way even has side by side pictures on what the new and old one looks like.

The fluid filled ones have a metal can around them. There are upgrades to both types, just comes down to which one that you need/want.

Oct 21, 2018 | 02:28 AM

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That looks like the later fluid filled mount. The mounts changed during the 2004 model year so your car probably has a production date after 11/2003. I’ve been really happy with the VT road mount, but some new info was posted about them in the last few days on the UK forum: https://www.minitorque.com/forum/f24...ml#post2458157

After seeing the pic of one taken apart, it makes you wonder why they’re priced so high.

This was an early version of the facelift mount without the perpendicular brace on the housing. I wonder if they updated the actual rubber isolating part of the mount when the brace was added.