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Old 05-14-2013, 09:37 AM
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car died mid drive after changing header

So last night I changed my header from stock to obx with a cat right. I start the car and get second o2 sensor light. I said o well ill change it next weekend. I hit the sensor to make it fit in the first place but when I was done I never needed to hit it. So I kick myself for that one. This morning going to work and everything is fine and perfect. I approach traffic car dies. It cranks starts for a split second then nothing. I tow it to work and pull the codes. Now I get camshaft sensor. First o2 sensor. Emissions purge valve. I'm like OMG I should of listened to my girl and never touched the car. So I have a camshaft sensor on the way ti work and a Bosch 02 sensor just arrived142 dollars omg. I work at a bodyshop 22 miles crime home.

What are your thoughts on this issue. What do I do. Change only first o2 and see what happens or change both at once. Or change second o2. I only have one o2 sensor at the moment. How can this happen I don't get it
 
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IMO the o2 sensors and codes did not cause the engine to shutdown the camshaft sensor did. Change that and see if you start up right away.
 
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OK can thus be a coincidence? Thanks for reply. Should I have reseted the computer before I tried driving it with new header? It just makes no sense that a o2 shuts down a car mid drive
 
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wonder if you melted the cat...but since you have a code..hopefully the code is pointing you in the right direction..
Camshft sensor..since you DO have a code for it is likely..heck..maybe you bumped the wire/plug on it during the header install....
Just wondering about the cat, cause OBX has a less...than...er.. stellar repuation...hopefully the vat it came with plays nice with the MINI computer....
 
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:50 AM
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Sensor didn't arrive yet should be here any minute
 
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:15 AM
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I put my own highflow cat that is 3 inch. Maybe I did melt it during serious welding. Just don't know yet errr. Frustrated waiting for this truck to get here
 
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Pull the codes and put the new cam sensor on and I bet it fires up. Then u can work on the o2 sensors. I bet it was a coincidence or like zippy said.
 
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U guys are the best got my sensor gonna try asapcross fingers lol
 
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Just check cat. Its good sold and I can see through it. Changed the cam sensor and nothing still here are my codes p0445 p0331 p0340
 
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Lol haha got itttttt. Checked the engine fuses I think my second 02 send chaffed wire and caused it to pop
 
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Check fuse F03 for ha ha
 
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P0445 - canister purge valve
P0340 Camshaft position sensor - no signal
P0331 Knock Sensor 2 Circuit Range/Performance

a bad fuse will cause no power at the cam sensor, o2 heaters and purge valve; which will cause the codes you reported. The Cam Sensor is a hall effect type sensor (three wires) it requires power in order to produce a signal...no signal forces the ECU into semi-sequential mode. This means that the ECU fires all the injectors at the same time.
 

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basically leason learned. dont rush untill you know you have plenty of time to fix your mistakes. #1 mistake was to not reweld the o2 bung. i should of just rewelded my o2 bung and this would of never happened. so i lost 125 dollars in tow. and if i cant return my cam sensor i would loose another 102 dollars. now i need to buy another o2 sensor which is 98 dollars. can anyone clarify this sensor for me???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACDelco-213-2908-Lambda-Oxygen-Sensor-/180875440766?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1d04327e&vxp=mtr
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