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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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>>My apologies to all of the sailors and airmen who also put themselves in harm’s way in the service of our country, and thanks to GRENEL for calling me on my failure to recognize them.

Nick

Thanks!!! No offense taken and No apologies needed, sometimes people don't realize sailors and airmen are dying along side the Marines and soldiers.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Lots of places and car makers give Vet discounts.
Some service orgs, ie MOPH and DAV have their own
setups with different companies. I priced a Miata once
and thought I could to better negotiating myself.(never bought the car)
Some places give a discount with a Uniformed Serice
ID like Pep Bous, etc so always show your ID.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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>>Whoa...I don't think he has an entitlement attitude...he's looking to make the best deal he can, and since Dad is co-signing, he's wondering if he can qualify for a discount. I don't think that means he thinks he's entitled. Perhaps it's just the way he's phrasing it.
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>>In this case, I don't think there will be a discount, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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"Well they should"

from the first words he posted it sounded like entitlement to me.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Just wondering if MINI provides any "Client Mgr. in the Financial Industry" discounts. If so, darn I didn't apply when I bought my MINI over a year ago.
A job is a job whether it's in the military, the fast food industry, doctor, etc... It's beyond me why there are veteran discounts. You willingly chose to enter into the military...was it for the "Veteran discounts"???
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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A job is a job whether it's in the military, the fast food industry, doctor, etc... It's beyond me why there are veteran discounts. You willingly chose to enter into the military...was it for the "Veteran discounts"???
Yes, I willingly chose to enter into the military...and no, it was not for the “Veteran discounts.” I served for twenty years, putting my life and limb in jeopardy so that you can continue to exercise your right to be an uncomprehending and ungrateful jerk!
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Man, you guys took an innocent question, picked it apart with your moronic observations, and THEN blew it out of proportion. Wow, I'm so proud to finally own a Mini, so that I can join the ranks of you fine gentlemen. For the few of you that realized what I was getting at, thanks for being compassionate. The rest of you dont even deserve a response. Thanks again guys.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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>>Just wondering if MINI provides any "Client Mgr. in the Financial Industry" discounts. If so, darn I didn't apply when I bought my MINI over a year ago.
>>A job is a job whether it's in the military, the fast food industry, doctor, etc... It's beyond me why there are veteran discounts. You willingly chose to enter into the military...was it for the "Veteran discounts"???


Remind yourself the next time bullets go flying over your head in your cute little bank that there are those who willingly put themselves in the same position everyday to afford you the opportunity to catch one in the chest and save the rest of us some air.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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>>Those companies that do offer a "military discount" of some type require proof, i.e. a valid active duty, reserve, military dependent, or retired military ID card... Whether or not they check that card is a different story.
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>>If you don't retire when you leave the military you MUST surrender your ID card, thereby no longer entitling you to the benefits such a card might get you, including commisary and exchange privledges and "military discounts" If you do retire, you are provided with a blue retiree ID card, as opposed to the white CAC (smart card) issued to all active and reserve military members (used to be green for active duty and pink for reserve)
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>>In the eyes of must companies, if you don't have that card, you don't get the discount, it doesn't matter if you slogged through the swamps of Vietnam or the deserts of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Iraq.
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>>As a dependent of your father, if he was still a member of the Armed Forces, or retired from the Armed Forces, YOU would have been issued a brown dependent ID card listing your father as your sponsor once you turned 10. That card would identify you as an immediate family member of a military member and in most cases would entitle you to "military discounts" and access to military exchanges and commisaries.
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>>However once you graduate college (or high school if you choose not to go to college) you must surrender your ID and you are no longer entitled to such priveledges...
VERY well said.... to all of you who are attacking me, focus your angers elsewhere. I am a military member serving on active duty. I have 12 years in, 8+ more to go towards retirement. At no point did i say that the soldiers serving in the desert do not serve their country. I am amazed that i even received such attacks. Ask any Security Forces or Military Police, and ESPECIALLY at any military installation hospital or BX..... a veteran, by definition, is someone who served their 20 years. Now, because of vietnam, that term has been distorted. Whether you served 4 years or 8, good for you, its great you did your country some good, but you are not by definition a VET.

mbabischkin put it very well in the above quote. Any place offering a military discount, even for "vets" requires a military ID. you only get a continuing military ID after you get out of the military if you retire from it.... try going to apply for a home loan through the VA after you are out of the military serving your four years. It ain't gonna work! You are either active duty or retired.

Again, not bashing anyone who ever served our fine country. Just angered a little at everyone who considers themselves "vets", thats all.... the two gents here who did 20 and 30 years.... BRAVO! my hat is off to you.


...and to "bigpmj"... this quote right here proves my original point:
Man, you guys took an innocent question, picked it apart with your moronic observations, and THEN blew it out of proportion. Wow, I'm so proud to finally own a Mini, so that I can join the ranks of you fine gentlemen.
such an ***! i bet your father is REAL proud.

after serving my time in the military, i have gratification that i served my country, not sleepless nights wondering what discounts i may get in the future. Our "picking apart an innocent question" was actually a great conversation on a sensitive subject. You, as a freeloader, were just trying to exploit a priviledge that was hard-earned by our fore-fathers.

thank you.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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EmCeeEss,

Why does the DMV (BMV) give veteran plates to people with a DD-214 as proof? 20 years makes you retired, serving your country makes you a veteran. What other word would you prefer?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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>>[quote]>> try going to apply for a home loan through the VA after you are out of the military serving your four years. It ain't gonna work!

Umm, I got a VA loan for a house. And I served 3 years active duty. And now that I am a civilian federal employee, I get a "veteran's preference" in my personnel file. So I think the widely used definition of "veteran" is anyone who has served their country on active duty. Normally 4 years, some were less, some longer. I think now you even find it used for those who joined up directly into the Guard or Reserves.
Whatever. We volunteered (at least those of us in the past 30 years did) and served our country in war or peace. We also were there if called on. So, YES, I am a Veteran.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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You don't need to be a holder of a military ID card to qualify for VA home loans and other benefits... I believe for a home loan it's a minimum of 3 years and if you were discharged, it must be with an honorable discharge. Some VA benefits are only available if you have served up to a retirement age, others are not... Must if not all are tied to your type of discharge.

However, there's a bit of a misnomer here. I don't think ANYBODY offers Veteran's Discounts... What is offered are MILITARY discounts. Big difference, there's no grey area. A military discount is offered only to holders of an active duty, reserve, dependent or retiree ID card. PERIOD. No DD-214's allowed. The Chrysler military discount specifically states that it is only available to ACTIVE DUTY, RESERVE or RETIREE's of the military. NOT veterans.

I've have never been anywhere that offers a MILITARY discount, that accepted a DD-214 for that discount. I've never ever heard of a veteran's discount... only a military discount.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Yeah, thats right. I just misphrased my original question. Its a military discount. I'm still suprised so many people attacked me. Whatever, I have better things to do than slander others anymously. Too bad some people have nothing better to do. I'm off to the Florida Marlins Opening Day game! :smile:
 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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as far as the whole veteran conversation - what qualifies as a "veteran", etc.... apparently i misunderstand. I work closely with the USO, and have worked with them for 10 years. (as I PCS I transfer to new locations). For those of you in the know, the USO is a non-for-profit organization to help support active duty military members and their families, and (as the USO dubs them), "Veterans."..... according to USO guidelines (not UCMJ, i misspoke), Veterans qualify as any DoD servicemember (AF, Army, Marines, Navy, Coast Guard) who has served 20 years of service or retired from the service. (i.e. anyone who walks into the USO must posses a mil ID.) This also holds true of Base Hospitals as well.

Again, i am not claiming that someone who hasn't served 20 years is not worthy! I believe after the vietnam war, the public twisted the word around, and it has since carried to today. if that is what is socially accepted today, as a "vet" is any person who served any time in any capacity, then i stand corrected. apologies to all who were offended.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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I wasnt at all offended, just a little suprised at how quickly people starting hurling insults at me. But thats what the internets for I guess. I didnt mean anybody harm, just asked a simple question. Oh yeah, and the Marlins won today! :smile:
 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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mbabischkin is correct. Pep Boys is a Military
not Veterans discount. Whoops....
 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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I think anyone who ever served in the military should be classified as a "veteran". but that doesn't mean everyone should go around looking for discounts, especially offspring. It is earned, not entitled.

cheers
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Oh yeah, and the Marlins won today! :smile:
Did Billy Marlin walk out to the pitcher's mound after the game with a sign that said "UNDEFEATED World Champions" like he did after the '98 Opening Game?

 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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LOL, if he did I missed it...we left as soon as the game was over. But it was a great game.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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LOL, if he did I missed it...we left as soon as the game was over. But it was a great game. You down in FL too?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 07:01 AM
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>>Well, does it? :smile:


I don't think they do, but looking at my invoice, I'm guessing they have an "extremely good looking gentleman" discount.........
 
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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As many of you probably already know AAFES offers discounts on American cars while you are overseas. Although AAFES does not deal through Mini, there is a car dealership in Europe who will give military discounts on Minis. That is how I got mine, and I received a substantial discount :smile: .
 
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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WOW!!! :evil: Wake up everyone!! To be considered as a Veteran by the US gov. you must have completed 180 or more days of active duty. I was in the reserves and was called up for 28 months after 9-11 . I served as an MP in a Homeland defense role. I regret that anyone would, at this time in history, tell me that I am not a veteran. The war is going on here everyday! Troops are playing a major role in protecting us in the states as well as overseas. I will be using my veterans benifits to buy my home in the next 12 months. People that take away from anyone that serves a short enlistment, reservists ,or someone just out of basic is a P.O.S. in my book!! As for the20- 30 year Veterans there are two types; type 1. true patriots who believe in our way of life and 2. those who couldn't make it anywhere else in life , or never could stop milking that government teet....I have met plenty of both in the last 9 years. The latter tend to be total J/Os who like to criticize younger troops and tell war stories about themselves :evil: Got a problem? Call an MP.....the "Force of Choice"
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 01:37 AM
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Chill guys...... in public parlance a vet is a veterinarian or a person who has served this country in any capacity in our military and more than likely claims the title. In military speak, a veteran is someone who has served his 20 years or has retired from the services......no big deal....both are proper uses and no one seems to be slighting anyone.........Insults have a place......it is called OTP.....try it, you might like it.....
 
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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OK...one more time, the US government gives you veteran status if you serve 180 or more days on active duty. If you have any questions PM me.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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>>>>Just wondering if MINI provides any "Client Mgr. in the Financial Industry" discounts. If so, darn I didn't apply when I bought my MINI over a year ago.
>>>>A job is a job whether it's in the military, the fast food industry, doctor, etc... It's beyond me why there are veteran discounts. You willingly chose to enter into the military...was it for the "Veteran discounts"???
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>>Remind yourself the next time bullets go flying over your head in your cute little bank that there are those who willingly put themselves in the same position everyday to afford you the opportunity to catch one in the chest and save the rest of us some air.<<

I don't work for a "cute little bank". Remind yourself Iraq is based on a pack of dirty lies and it breaks my heart everyday to think of these innocent soldiers and civilians working there caught in a lose/lose scenario. I just wonder how Bush sleeps at night.
 
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