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bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 05:24 PM

Well, does it? :smile:

mbabischkin Apr 4, 2004 05:45 PM

No

bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 05:45 PM

Anyone...? :sad:

bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 05:46 PM

Damn. Thats kinda not kool.

bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 06:13 PM

Well I think they should...I think veteran discounts are a good idea.

ocho9 Apr 4, 2004 06:18 PM

>>Well I think they should...I think veteran discounts are a good idea.


Does any car company give Veteran discounts? Never heard of it.

bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 06:26 PM

Well, I know that Ford does, its $550. Im not sure about other companies for certain, only Ford cuz I bought a car there.

mattcoon Apr 4, 2004 06:28 PM

>>>>Well I think they should...I think veteran discounts are a good idea.
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>>Does any car company give Veteran discounts? Never heard of it.

Toyota does. It's the Encore program. They're not hurting for sales, either.

bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 06:39 PM

Exactly. Ill ask tomorow when I go back...but I think every car company should do it. Its just the right thing to do.

EmCeeEss Apr 4, 2004 07:55 PM


>>Well, I know that Ford does, its $550. Im not sure about other companies for certain, only Ford cuz I bought a car there.
you're a vet? using that language? "cuz"???? By the way, the UCMJ defines a veteran as a servicemember who has served at least 20 years of military service, or has retired from duty. have you served 20 years? or did you do 4 and get out? Sorry but a 4-year enlistee does not earn the title "veteran."

just a FYI: ford, nationally, does not have that discount. it is up to each dealer, and as a former salesman, i can assure you the specific dealer in question most likely offered that discount to earn your business.

bigpmj Apr 4, 2004 08:04 PM

Well, my father served in Vietnam, so anyone in the household applies for the discount. And if for one F@#^ing second you honestly think he didnt do his duty during the 4 years he was there, then you dont deserve to be living here.

Oh, and just an FYI: Do you ever use capital letters? Is that as bad as me abbreviating the word "because"? Ass.

thejamesgang Apr 4, 2004 09:39 PM

I'd like to have you point out exactly where in the UCMJ it defines the word "veteran." Here's a link to read it if you like:

UCMJ

For those of us that chose to serve in the armed forces (and those of us that still do), Webster's dictionary defines "veteran" as the following:

1. A person who is long experienced or practiced in an activity or capacity: a veteran of political campaigns.
2. A person who has served in the armed forces: “Privilege, a token income... were allowed for veterans of both world wars” (Mavis Gallant).
3. An old soldier who has seen long service.

So tell the kids over in the sandbox that they aren't veterans. I'd like to see their response.

bigpmj Apr 5, 2004 07:05 AM

Thank you, James.

I'm going to Mini tonight after school, and I'll post what they say about it.

Oh yeah, I've only been going to college for two years. Is that long enough to be considered a college student, or do I have to be there for twenty years as well? :smile:

MINIGUY99 Apr 5, 2004 07:16 AM

>>Thank you, James.
>>
>>I'm going to Mini tonight after school, and I'll post what they say about it.
>>
>>Oh yeah, I've only been going to college for two years. Is that long enough to be considered a college student, or do I have to be there for twenty years as well? :smile:

It is my understanding that the term Veteran refers to...in the case of the military...a soldier who served in time of war or other active military action. Someone who enlists in the military and does not actively serve in some form of conflict may not be given that title.

I may be wrong, but that is my understanding. Interesting thread I must say.

I think you'll find any number of manufacturers offering some form of military or veteran discount. But, most likely they will be American companies offering these incentives to American serviceman.

Good Luck

Redleg13 Apr 5, 2004 07:23 AM

>>Well, my father served in Vietnam, so anyone in the household applies for the discount.


I guess my 30 years on active duty with tours in Vietnam, the middle east, and many outher unpleasant places might qualify me to add my two cents: first nobody's kid should qualify for a veteran's discount. Second, veterans consider it a privilege to have served our country. Selfless service, duty, and honor are their own rewards. Not looking for a discount or special treatment... So lose the attitude, and clean up your act.

bigpmj Apr 5, 2004 07:29 AM

Thanx for your .02 but I still think I should get the discount. Hes cosigning the car with me, and any discounts I can muster up will really help. You dont want a poor college kid to starve, do you? :smile:

MINIGUY99 Apr 5, 2004 08:01 AM

>>Thanx for your .02 but I still think I should get the discount. Hes cosigning the car with me, and any discounts I can muster up will really help. You dont want a poor college kid to starve, do you? :smile:

I thought the whole point of being in college was to starve. It's a right of passage in a way. You gotta spend a couple of years eating ramen noodles and macaroni and cheese to really appreciate that degree.

Once you get the degree, get your first job, first apartment, etc. Then you get to eat ramen and mac and cheese for another couple of years until you get the next couple of promotions....

Ahh...memories.

minibill Apr 5, 2004 08:09 AM

BMW gives vets big discount.
If you were in the German Army.
Wilhelm

bigpmj Apr 5, 2004 08:22 AM

But I dont like starving...
And I'm not a big fan of the noodles, for me its Ritz crackers with peanut butter, and frozen pizzas.

cynthetiq Apr 5, 2004 08:37 AM

>>But I dont like starving...

then don't buy a MINI buy a Hyundai.

IMHO I think you should clean up your ENTITLEMENT attitude also. If it's your FATHER'S car, then he should qualify for the discount.

MINIGUY99 Apr 5, 2004 09:06 AM

>>>>But I dont like starving...
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>>then don't buy a MINI buy a Hyundai.
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>>IMHO I think you should clean up your ENTITLEMENT attitude also. If it's your FATHER'S car, then he should qualify for the discount.

Whoa...I don't think he has an entitlement attitude...he's looking to make the best deal he can, and since Dad is co-signing, he's wondering if he can qualify for a discount. I don't think that means he thinks he's entitled. Perhaps it's just the way he's phrasing it.

In this case, I don't think there will be a discount, but it doesn't hurt to ask.



Nick_T. Apr 5, 2004 09:31 AM

After reading EmCeeEss’ distortion of fact I was feeling sympathy for bigpmj, but in the very next post bigpmj tells us that he is nothing but a freeloader attempting to ride on the coattails of his father.

My advice to bigpmj: take a sabbatical from college, enlist in the Marine Corps or Army and do a tour in Iraq. After you return to civilian life and college do a review of your attitude and see if you still think that the children of veterans have a right to special treatment.

BTW, I proudly wore the uniform from ‘52 to ‘72, and like our friend with 30 years in the Field Artillery, I have never asked for special treatment as a reward for my service.

mbabischkin Apr 5, 2004 11:29 AM

Those companies that do offer a "military discount" of some type require proof, i.e. a valid active duty, reserve, military dependent, or retired military ID card... Whether or not they check that card is a different story.

If you don't retire when you leave the military you MUST surrender your ID card, thereby no longer entitling you to the benefits such a card might get you, including commisary and exchange privledges and "military discounts" If you do retire, you are provided with a blue retiree ID card, as opposed to the white CAC (smart card) issued to all active and reserve military members (used to be green for active duty and pink for reserve)

In the eyes of must companies, if you don't have that card, you don't get the discount, it doesn't matter if you slogged through the swamps of Vietnam or the deserts of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Iraq.

As a dependent of your father, if he was still a member of the Armed Forces, or retired from the Armed Forces, YOU would have been issued a brown dependent ID card listing your father as your sponsor once you turned 10. That card would identify you as an immediate family member of a military member and in most cases would entitle you to "military discounts" and access to military exchanges and commisaries.

However once you graduate college (or high school if you choose not to go to college) you must surrender your ID and you are no longer entitled to such priveledges...

GRENDEL Apr 5, 2004 11:46 AM


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>>My advice to bigpmj: take a sabbatical from college, enlist in the Marine Corps or Army and do a tour in Iraq. After you return to civilian life and college do a review of your attitude and see if you still think that the children of veterans have a right to special treatment.



There are those of us in the Navy that do tours in Iraq far away from the ships and the ocean. We stay and operate with the Marines.

Nick_T. Apr 5, 2004 12:13 PM


GRENDEL wrote: There are those of us in the Navy that do tours in Iraq far away from the ships and the ocean. We stay and operate with the Marines.
My apologies to all of the sailors and airmen who also put themselves in harm’s way in the service of our country, and thanks to GRENEL for calling me on my failure to recognize them.


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