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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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>>>>If you need something in which to haul your spawn around, a MINI would be a bad choice anyway--even one misshapen into a station wagon.


Do you hate children?

Do you hate family vehicles?

You are one sorry individual. So far your hatred towards station wagons and their "contents" only go to show that you seem to be a pretty recalcitrant "anti-family" kind of guy.


Hope I am wrong...am I?

 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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>>Honestly, barf. Why would anyone want to pay for a MINI turned into a wagon? Newsflash: All wagons look like hell and are utility vehicles bought strictly out of necessity, hence the term wagon. A MINI wagon would be for the same suckers who would pay >$40K for a Mercedes or Volvo wagon. If I were forced to buy a wagon and had no means to cap myself in the head with a nine to avoid the sentence, I'd get the best value and not even consider how it looks, since a wagon cannot look good and is meant for little more than hauling one's odiferous, snot encrusted litter of papuliferoids from soccer practice to ballet.

To each his own, but I absolutely HATE the way 4-door sedans look and will ONLY buy wagons (I've owned 3 and within my immediate family: 5 total).

NOTHING is more boring than a 4-door sedan (snore.... zzzzzzz.....), I don't care how much engine you stuff in it.

But a wagon with a big engine. Now that's cool. Wagons are stealthy. :smile:
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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>>To each his own, but I absolutely HATE the way 4-door sedans look and will ONLY buy wagons (I've owned 3 and within my immediate family: 5 total).
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>>NOTHING is more boring than a 4-door sedan (snore.... zzzzzzz.....), I don't care how much engine you stuff in it.
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>>But a wagon with a big engine. Now that's cool. Wagons are stealthy. One of my "dream cars" is a BMW 5-series touring with the engine & trans from a M5.
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>>Then again, I'm way too practical as to me, the perfect SUV is my full-size conversion van.

Actually, I agree that 4-door sedans are boring and ugly. I just used one as an example because I see 4-door sedans as less hideous than station wagons. I think the idea of a "sport sedan", as laughable as it is, caught on before the "sport wagon" farce did. Still, I recognize that there had to be that guy back in the 70s who saw a Town and Country with the vinyl veneer and thought it was cool.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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>>>>In fact, that goes a long way toward countering the fact that the MINI is basically already shaped like a miniature station wagon.<<
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>>As bad as you hate all station wagons I'm surprized you like the MINI at all, since it's "basically already shaped like a miniature station wagon", no manner where it's wheels are located.
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Wheel position makes a huge difference. Whereas the MINI has the back wheels at the very rear of the car, a station wagon generally has a large overhang, usually on the order of feet. If the MINI's rear wheels were pushed forward to just behind the door, the car's stance would be changed drastically, and it would look like hell.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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>>>>>>In fact, that goes a long way toward countering the fact that the MINI is basically already shaped like a miniature station wagon.<<
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>>>>As bad as you hate all station wagons I'm surprized you like the MINI at all, since it's "basically already shaped like a miniature station wagon", no manner where it's wheels are located.
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>>Wheel position makes a huge difference. Whereas the MINI has the back wheels at the very rear of the car, a station wagon generally has a large overhang, usually on the order of feet. If the MINI's rear wheels were pushed forward to just behind the door, the car's stance would be changed drastically, and it would look like hell.
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And not only that, the back wheels would rub against the front wheels. On the other hand, if you take an ugly station wagon and move it's wheels to the rearward extreme, it looks great!

Your irrrational hatred of station wagons is puzzling, but whatever, you win.


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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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>>Your irrrational hatred of station wagons is puzzling, but whatever, you win.
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I've never thought of it as irrational to dislike the way a car looks, but whatever. You can be right.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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>>>>>>If you need something in which to haul your spawn around, a MINI would be a bad choice anyway--even one misshapen into a station wagon.
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>>Do you hate children?
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>>Do you hate family vehicles?
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>>You are one sorry individual. So far your hatred towards station wagons and their "contents" only go to show that you seem to be a pretty recalcitrant "anti-family" kind of guy.
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>>Hope I am wrong...am I?
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I doubt my dislike of station wagons warranted a personal attack and I would hope that the moderators agree. Station wagons are, after all, just cars.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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>>>>Your irrrational hatred of station wagons is puzzling, but whatever, you win. :evil:


R.E.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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>>But still only 2 doors? You would think that with the extra room they could add some more access/egress points, albeit small. An interesting concept none the less...

The original countryman was a 2 door. Well... four, if you count the hatch doors.
 
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