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R50/53 just wondering, is DSC a must??

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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
Computer based, though DSC models include yaw sensors which I assume are not present in those cars w/o DSC.
When I bought my car, it was explained to me (in mathematical graphing terms) that ASC+T works on the X axis and DSC is the same thing that works on the Y axis.

DSC is a great safety feature to have in really slippery conditions, but if you drive safely, especially for the road condition at hand, probably not absolutely necessary. The most important safety feature is driver skill. The electronics is there for those who forget to turn that on.
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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woo, tons of good info! thanks for the replies, guys!
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:07 AM
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i drive with ASC off all the time to get the tail lose around the corners. say no to electric aid. all those stuff that new cars comes with makes dumber drivers
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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gmin,
I ordered DSC thinking it would add a little resale value to the S model I bought new in March 2006. Conclusion: It is not a necessary feature.

My DSC has been turned off using an aftermarket circuit board for all but three short drives. The first drive with DSC was to see what it would do. While making a sharp turn (with some gas pedal) out of my down sloped driveway, it applied the brake or cut the power to one wheel. This caused unwarranted hesitation that I considered dangerous, as well as, some interest on my behalf. I went around the block and pulled back into the drive way to see if I could repeat this observation. Sure enough, ditto! Great, now I've got a system that applies the brakes or kills the power at the apex of a turn. (that's ridiculous) The third time I used DSC was in the rain on the highway just to see how it might work. Found it unecessary. I drive with caution in the rain anyway.

DSC has been turned off for >30,000mi. No other automobile or motorcycle ever owned by me had this. The quick count on previously owned vehicles that didn't have it is 28. My have missed a couple.
 
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Old May 15, 2008 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by billie_morini
gmin,
I ordered DSC thinking it would add a little resale value to the S model I bought new in March 2006. Conclusion: It is not a necessary feature.

My DSC has been turned off using an aftermarket circuit board for all but three short drives. The first drive with DSC was to see what it would do. While making a sharp turn (with some gas pedal) out of my down sloped driveway, it applied the brake or cut the power to one wheel. This caused unwarranted hesitation that I considered dangerous, as well as, some interest on my behalf. I went around the block and pulled back into the drive way to see if I could repeat this observation. Sure enough, ditto! Great, now I've got a system that applies the brakes or kills the power at the apex of a turn. (that's ridiculous) The third time I used DSC was in the rain on the highway just to see how it might work. Found it unecessary. I drive with caution in the rain anyway.

DSC has been turned off for >30,000mi. No other automobile or motorcycle ever owned by me had this. The quick count on previously owned vehicles that didn't have it is 28. My have missed a couple.
It's hard to believe you're alive how could you possibly survive all those years without stability controll ?? (end of sarcasm)
I hear you. I will refuse to own a car that has systems that cannot be turned off. All those aids cannot read your mind and have no idea what you really want to do at the time when they interfere thinking you're about to get into an accident.
A driver who knows what he's doing will be able to cover himself/herself in most of the dangerous situations. If you really get into hairy moment, no system will save you.
These things are designed for people who have absolutely no idea how to brake in the slick stuff or handle little oversteer.
 
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