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R50/53 MC Is Faster Then MCS ???

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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 04:09 AM
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>>The MC with the CVT in SD mode seems to be faster then the MCS up to about 35-40. From about 40 they are about even but you can see the MCS start to kick in from there. The MCS starts passing me at 45.

===>>> WHAT A COOL POSTING! I was not aware of the above . I'm personally stoked for all MC motorers, all CVT motorers, & all MCS motorers! Just to own the keys to one is thrilling to me
 
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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>>>>As to why AT is faster than MT, I've heard many a race car driver say that unless you've got Mario Andretti at the wheel, the modern AT, especially CVT, will outshift a manual every time in a drag race. Even with someone like Mario driving, the difference is only 1/10th of a second. But you still want MT for Solo II because the car won't know what you're doing, won't know to keep the RPMs up higher than normal. A computer won't thrash like a human, even in Sport mode.>>
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>>This does make sense but in practise doesn't work. The reason I say that is because of the official figures :
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>>Acceleration (manual only):
>>0-62mph (s): 9.2
>>Top speed (manual only): 125mph
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>>Acceleration (CVT only):
>>0-62mph (s): 10.4
>>Top speed (CVT only): 115mph
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>>Looking at these figures it would suggest that 10 times out of 10 the manual would win in a drag race. I'm really not trying to start an arguement but automatics are always slower with both top end and acceleration with all cars, the MINI is no exception.

One thing a manual has going for it is a high RPM clutch dump, though it's unlikely that this technique was used in getting the data on the various cars they did the baseline testing with.

 
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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