i'd take a HondaFit over the Tc, but that's just me.

i saw a group outing for those Fit's about a month ago
and those little hatches looked very cool modded.

 

The tC is a small car that happens to be a bit sporty. The MINI is sporty and happens to be small. The engineers' priorities were a bit different with the tC.

 

did i hear someone say beer?

 

The mini is for driving... the TC is for commuting.

 

MINI is for motoring, Civic is for commuting.

btw, wat do you guys think of the Fit? i think they're pretty cool.
i mean, it won't replace a MINI, but a cool all round versatile hatch.

 

tC vs MCS is laughable. There's no way the Scion will keep up less they have done some modding work and even then, take them in the twisties and the MCS will show it up everytime. tCs just aren't that type of car. I really hate their advertising and marketing as well, making it seem that their 4 cylinder econbox can be ricing material when all it does is spark 18 year old guys to buy the car dirt cheap, put a BOV, CAI, and a wing worthy of a 747 on it and call it fast. Not to mention the primer color body kit

A well modded and responsibly driven MCS will take a stock WRX from a roll even.

As for the Honda Fit, you're better off with a Prelude if you want to play with it. For commuting, definately. Both get great mileage but don't expect to really find a good, worthit aftermarket for the Fit. Preludes on the other hand, are the best of both worlds. I hear their shifting is notchy though..

Just my .02

 

Hasn't this been beaten to death about now?

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ighlight=scion

 

In what world? For that matter, if its "modded" enuff, you could have bought the WRX and been even faster

 

Granted you'll have to spend a bit to bump the Cooper to 230hp to match the WRX's 227hp but what you'll find is that from a roll, you'll kill it. From a dig, the WRX will murder you.

It's the same thing with the Dodge SRT-4, lightly modded, it will destroy a Rex from a roll, from a dig, it has no chance.

To answer your question though, it is very possible. Remember, I didn't say anything about STis

 

Prelude?

i had a real nice one from 98' in the past. loved that car.
it was replaced by my MCS.

 

Mhm! Preludes are very nice cars, and the aftermarket for them is big as well. The Fit, although fun looking, just doesn't do it for me. I see that small hood and instantly think "It's got nothing".

Then again all the Fits I have seen are show cars and therefore the horrid wretches of the automotive industry.

 

227? Oh excuse me. I was talking STI 300hp

 

MCS vs STi? Heartless

Really though, the STi would stomp it relentlessly.

 

so now you know why I was questioning you

Sometimes ppl think the MINI can walk on water

 

Oh no.. I know the cars potential. Stock WRX, a well modded MINI can take it. Stock STi? Waste of gas

I shun those 18 year old kids who buy Coopahs as project cars and attempt to do a full engine swap to a twin turbo engine..

..then get PO'd when their FWD can't take it.

 

u don't need full engine swap to take stock STis...
all u need is set of forged pistons, turbo and proper tune. No one said mini drives on water.. so let's not be hating.

 

No one is hating, they're just being realistic.


As a site note, comparing a heavily modded car to a stock one is just silly.

 

im going for the G37C next... 340hp.

but i wouldn't be using it for thrust, more for smoother driving.

 

Hating? Proving a valid point.

A turbo and all that would be nice, but I would assume most of the components on the inside of the MINI are not up to the task of dealing with 300+hp to the wheels. Actually, it's highly doubtful. Even with STis when you push 350+awhp you need to do some tweaking on the drivetrain just like with regular WRXs. They're infamous for drivetrain problems when pushed past Cobb Stage II (260awhp).

Maybe the JCW GP would have the right components on the inside, but to me the MCS would be a dead float without some proper EM and a full tune done by a very experienced shop.


...then again WHY are we talking about Imprezas when this is between a tC and MCS?

 

 

The scion tC in reality is a direct spin off the European Toyota Camry (Avensis), rebadged and re-packaged and sold under the Scion brand.

The tC was brought over for those customers willing to spend a little more cash and could not stomach the looks of the cheaper xA and Xb models. Also the tC was sort of intended to attract and/or retain Toyota customers that otherwise would have been interested in the defunct Toyota Celica.

The tC is a nice car for what it is but nothing overly special. It is no secret that Toyota wants to replace it soon, if the Scion brand wants to play in the "big leagues" with more worthy and well established competitors in its turf.

The current Civic Coupe and Coupe Si models are vastly superior cars to the Scion tC in every conceivable way. I would think the Civic Si would be a better, more direct competitor to the MCS, than the tC would be to either one of these.

I like the Honda Fit. This little car is everything that the Honda Civic of 15-20 years ago used to be: A cheap, reliable, versatile, economical/fuel frugal commuter car. I have not yet driven the Fit, only sat in one and the car seems very roomy and well put together. A very attractive package (Well priced and equipped) and in many ways a car that I find more palatable than the current Civic (Which doesn't even have a hatchback in its US lineup anymore). But to me the the biggest negative of the Fit is the looks, which reeks of late 1990's cheap Japanese econobox a la Suzuki Aerio. When Honda updates the styling of this aging car (Actually the Honda Fit was first introduced elsewhere in the world back in 2001 and is it sold as the Honda Jazz, and it was just last year imported into the USA), then I would say that only then the Fit could become a formidable competitor to its bigger, heavier and more expensive brother, the Civic.

I don't think the Fit is selling well at all. In fact I don't see many of them here in Miami, the world capital of "Keeping up with the Joneses or Rodrigueses". All I can say is that poor advertaising in part of Honda, dealers seem not to like them that much and the looks of the car are hurdles in its success

A Honda Fit "sport" is as expensive as a new 5 door VW Rabbit. I think between the Fit and the Rabbit I would pick the Vdub, just because it looks better.