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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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so, I've lost my satisfaction in driving the ol crx, and I want to turbo it. Does anyone know a good turbo kit thats cheap? just a small turbo so I dont have to build the motor up

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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turbo is cool, but how about NAWWZ?! like in the movies?

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by justintime
a small turbo so I dont have to build the motor up
This doesn't work. (atleast the motor is cheap to replace)

www.turbobygarrett.com has a great kit search engine tool. I even found a few for the MINI on there too.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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haha, I dont expect the motor to last to long anyways.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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Save your money.

Turboing a non-built low HP (old and tired) engine is throwing your money away.

Put a b18c in it and call it a day. You can buy full swaps online. They also come with the tranny, so you would get the type-r 5 spd, and the built in LSD. B18c should be a bit lower in price now that the K series seems to be the "new" fad for swaps. But 200bhp naturally asperated engine in a small Rex will be FUN!

Then if that isnt enough you can turbo/SC the type-R engine later on.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mini Mizer
Save your money.

Turboing a non-built low HP (old and tired) engine is throwing your money away.

Put a b18c in it and call it a day. You can buy full swaps online. They also come with the tranny, so you would get the type-r 5 spd, and the built in LSD. B18c should be a bit lower in price now that the K series seems to be the "new" fad for swaps. But 200bhp naturally asperated engine in a small Rex will be FUN!

Then if that isnt enough you can turbo/SC the type-R engine later on.
+1, although don't bother with the type R, its overpriced. Get a B18c1 (gsr) instead of the B18c5 (type R). It will have MORE than enough power and will be friendlier later if you want to boost it. The only drawback will be the lack of an LSD, but you can add that aftermarket for less than the difference between the two and still have cash left over. . .
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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+1, although don't bother with the type R, its overpriced. Get a B18c1 (gsr) instead of the B18c5 (type R). It will have MORE than enough power and will be friendlier later if you want to boost it. The only drawback will be the lack of an LSD, but you can add that aftermarket for less than the difference between the two and still have cash left over. . .
very good point Rubyred3, but i didnt think the gsr was good for high revs? doesnt it lack oil squirters??? or you could always make the poor mans type-R and use the gsr bottom-end with a Type-R head.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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interesting points, however I dont believe the rex's engine bay is quite big enough for the type-r? I thought you could only swap in the 88 and up.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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the b18 is also worth more than the car itself almost ^__^

what about a b16?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-B...35348571QQrdZ1
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Hasport builds aluminum engine mounts for the swap. Kinda expensive you might find some cheaper ones.

http://www.hasport.com/Products/Mounts.htm

but you can put a type-R engine in almost anything...even an 84 CRX
B16a is pretty nice. kinda like the little brother of the B18c5. Not as much hp/tq but it revs nicely.

here is the best online place to buy complete change over engine swaps.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/

you can look at prices and different types of engines. (click on JDM-USDM engines at the top)

A while back i was going to buy an 84 CRX 1st gen and put a type-R engine into it. But i didnt have the time to do all the work so i didnt follow through with the idea.

but you cant go wrong with a b16 or b18, as Toda racing makes V-tec killer cams, and ITB intakes for both engines i believe. Aftermarket products galore for both. But i would not recomend spending money on a engine that is old, with little potential.

just my .02
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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very good point Rubyred3, but i didnt think the gsr was good for high revs? doesnt it lack oil squirters??? or you could always make the poor mans type-R and use the gsr bottom-end with a Type-R head.
Nope, the GSR has the oil squirters, you're thinking of the B18B (which is the LS/GS engine). The GSR redlines at 8000 rpm, the only reason the type R motor revs higher is b/c of stiffer valve springs. The poor mans type R is usually an LS/VTEC, which is usually made by mating an LS block to a B16 head (the B16 is the motor from the 99-2000 civic Si, amongst others).

and for those who mentioned it, the B16 would be an excellent choice as well (and more cost effective), its one of the most compatible engines with the CRX chassis, particularly the older, early 90's ones (it was only available in Japan at that time, but most B16's on the market are those older JDM Civic SiR motors, it was only ever offered in the US as the Civic Si 99-2000 or the del Sol Si, but those motors don't work as well with a CRX and require more modification to get to work)
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rubyred3
Nope, the GSR has the oil squirters, you're thinking of the B18B (which is the LS/GS engine). The GSR redlines at 8000 rpm, the only reason the type R motor revs higher is b/c of stiffer valve springs. The poor mans type R is usually an LS/VTEC, which is usually made by mating an LS block to a B16 head (the B16 is the motor from the 99-2000 civic Si, amongst others).
ah yes you are right! wow...its been a long time since ive slung around honda motor lingo. I was getting confused.

Poor mans type-R is nice, especially for the price if you plan to boost it. I hear the LS bottom end is super strong, (if you dont over rev it for long periods) GSR sounds like a great option as well as the b16.

That link i posted has alot of JDM engines as well as USDM. JDM engines of course have a higher performance output.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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its a shame the h22 wont fit, that would be an amazing swap. I wanted to sell the 87 for a 90 crx just to do the swap but Ive put to much of my time into the rex to sell it right now haha. thanks alot everyone! curious though, would you need to sacrifice anything? like the alternator?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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You got to have an alternator for your car to be able to run. A/C compressor im not sure if you can leave it on. You might be able to. You also might need to move your battery. Depending on which engine/tranny you choose, you may have to get a small kit to convert the hydrulic tranny to a cable type.

the super expensive hasport engine mounts line the engine up perfectly within the engine bay and resolve any clearance issues. But...they are expensive..i would try to find some "knock offs" that do the same thing.

As far as the H22....B18 can run circles around it. Almost all the japanese track cars run a B16 or B18 as they can rev alot higher then the H22. When it comes to honda engines, its all about high revs. V-Tec killer cams in a B18c5 with matching springs, and ecu will allow it to spin to 11K redline.

Not sure they make stuff like this for the H22.

here is the ITB intake.
http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/pa...rts_inj-e.html

and the super crazy V-Tec Killer cams. (read about them )
http://www.toda-racing.jp/product/on...16/b16-05.html

 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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well, I thought you can run it without the alternator it just wont recharge everything?

h22 is powerful on the low revs isn it? that would be ideal since I prefure autocross over roadrace. but having a car that revs 11k would be amazing :D
 
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by justintime
its a shame the h22 wont fit, that would be an amazing swap.
It does fit, has been done, and was featured in SCC (I'll have to go through my stack for the volume #). I recall they did a lot of "convincing" of the engine bay.

Personally, I'd sell the rex before I accidently threw too much money at it. Although it would make for an interesting track toy. :evil:

(EDIT): Here is a link the the H22 kit http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net/
 
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by goin440
It does fit, has been done, and was featured in SCC (I'll have to go through my stack for the volume #). I recall they did a lot of "convincing" of the engine bay.

Personally, I'd sell the rex before I accidently threw too much money at it. Although it would make for an interesting track toy. :evil:

(EDIT): Here is a link the the H22 kit http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net/

its been done to the 88 and up.

they 84-87 have a completely different body. alot smaller. Thats why I got it, I see little crx being turned into tuners all over. but never 87 =]
 
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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well step one complete. got the new stage three clutch in. now just to bolt the transmission and all the other little annoying stuff back on =]

not fun, and just curious.. how much abestos does it take to give you cancer?????
 
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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In auto-x high revs are always present. mostly due tot he fact that people stay in 2nd gear for much of the run. Sometimes shifting into 3rd if there is a straight. Alot of people will stay in 2nd and bang off the rev limiter a few times to reach the turn rather then shift and then down shift right back. 11k rpm with the right engine parts/ecu/fuel system would help out alot, and allow you to stay in the high revs longer so you dont have to shift. The fact that it would be all-motor would also help in auto-x because you wouldnt have any turbo lag. All your power would be on tap at your right foot. Just got to make sure you dont snap any axles.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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I definatly agree with the turbo lag. but 11k seems realllly high to me. the way the rpms on the mini are set in autox seem perfect if you are in error and let the rpm drop to much around a corner. seems like if the rpms at that high of a level would take to long to get back in your powerband? but I would't know ^__^ I guess I also didnt take into account that the rpms probably go up faster as well.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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this is why you should always check before you buy old cars...
 
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