bad driver videos?
bad driver videos?
Terrible Ferrari driver?
http://www.evo.co.uk/evotv/supercarv...rari_550m.html
Aston martin ... another bad driver?
http://www.evo.co.uk/evotv/supercarv...on_martin.html
http://www.evo.co.uk/evotv/supercarv...rari_550m.html
Aston martin ... another bad driver?
http://www.evo.co.uk/evotv/supercarv...on_martin.html
Originally Posted by kenchan
put a cup with 1/3 to 1/2 full of water in your cup holder and drive though the
canyons without spilling it from your turns.
canyons without spilling it from your turns.


The Ferrari clip was just plain scary.
The roadway looked like the same one used in the opening scene of the original Italian Job movie.

The roadway looked like the same one used in the opening scene of the original Italian Job movie.
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In somewhat the Ferrari driver is a bad driver, but then you have to admit even though he made some mistakes he still kept it on the road and not going off the side of the Hill
.
Also gotta remeber its RWD and mucho HP.
. Also gotta remeber its RWD and mucho HP.
Originally Posted by kenchan
put a cup with 1/3 to 1/2 full of water in your cup holder and drive though the
canyons without spilling it from your turns.
canyons without spilling it from your turns.

Be smooth!
I only watched the Ferrari flick. All over the road, over rotating the rear end, but the funky steering wheel... do you have to not let go in order to shift? But the low traffic count is more amazing!
Originally Posted by 89AKurt
do you have to not let go in order to shift? But the low traffic count is more amazing!
The same is true on the new 2007 997TT. The 0-60 times are siginifcantly faster using the paddles than a manual.
Originally Posted by kenchan
^^ is it really the human factor or is the construction of the clutch
completely different? i think it is more of a mechanical issue than
the human factor.
completely different? i think it is more of a mechanical issue than
the human factor.
I think its both. The human being has to always be involved and being humans, we make errors. We have to clutch in, move the lever, clutch out remembered when and where to do it.
The DSG uses computers, that never (


) makes mistakes, wont even let you blow the engine with a bad downshift. Computer always win.If you read here Stick Shift RIP
The day F1 racing cars switched to paddle shift control, the clutch pedal was doomed
DSG rules– to the point where the clutch pedal and traditional manual gearbox is a mechanical redundancy, a dead device shifting. In fact, any car manufacturer who doesn't have a DSG or something similar installed in their performance-oriented products will soon be at a tremendous disadvantage.
Death to the Stick Shift
Bottom line, you want to have fun and be involved, drive a manual
You want to be fast, get paddles
Originally Posted by chows4us
Bottom line, you want to have fun and be involved, drive a manual
You want to be fast, get paddles
You want to be fast, get paddles
Automatic transmissions can't see the road ahead, and until we have computer imaging as part of the equation, the most efficient way to handle the shifting duties (i.e. being in the BEST gear for the situation, at any given time) will be to keep that control in the hands of the driver... either via a manual transmission or via no delay shift paddles, such as those tied to DSG/SMG automatics.
Originally Posted by Edge
That needs a modification... I agree, but ONLY in the case of DSG/SMG automatics.
Originally Posted by chows4us
Thats what we were talking about ... DSG.
Originally Posted by Edge
Yes, but your statement wasn't specific enough...
but I guess you could imply the discussion was about other kinds.The article you didn't like is over two years old, an editorial. The new article was the other one.
Originally Posted by chows4us
The paddle shifting thing in this thread was only a discussion of the Ferrari paddles ... which use their own variation of DSG (see the VW article). My other post only talked about DSG and nothing else ... I never referenced any other kind
but I guess you could imply the discussion was about other kinds.
but I guess you could imply the discussion was about other kinds.
Originally Posted by chows4us
The article you didn't like is over two years old, an editorial. The new article was the other one.
I remember very vividly that road along Tuscany's countryside. very beautiful, and I must concure, he is a bad driver. One thing you must remember is, in Italy, EVERYONE utilizes the full road.
P.S. If you see an Italian plate that has the words Venice on it, then look the heck out. Some of the worst drivers around!
P.S. If you see an Italian plate that has the words Venice on it, then look the heck out. Some of the worst drivers around!
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