WOW, just wow...Maybe GM isnt dead
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Originally Posted by Rick-Anderson
I view Saturn the same way as I do Hyundai. No matter how nice the cars may be, they are still Hyundais and Saturns.
GM had already announced that it's taking Saturn upmarket, well above Chevy/Pontiac/etc. Volkswagen has been mentioned as a direct competitor for this "new" Saturn brand.
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Well at least these Saturns don't have panel gaps that you can stick your finger through. (I should wait for an actual production vehicle to really make that comment.)
GM has done it's darndest to commit corporate suicide: 6,000 lb. vehicles, 7 ltr. V-8s, appalling quality, Hugely overpriced junk IMO.
Well people, we live in the era of $3.00 per gallon gasoline, and it ain't getting cheaper! Even last summer's great vehicle give-away (employee pricing - 0% interest for 60 months, etc.) doesn't change the fact that the average Joe can't afford to fuel and drive one of these behemouths on a daily basis.
Something's gotta give, and that something will be GM's stock price. I foresee bankruptcy protection in their future.
GM has done it's darndest to commit corporate suicide: 6,000 lb. vehicles, 7 ltr. V-8s, appalling quality, Hugely overpriced junk IMO.
Well people, we live in the era of $3.00 per gallon gasoline, and it ain't getting cheaper! Even last summer's great vehicle give-away (employee pricing - 0% interest for 60 months, etc.) doesn't change the fact that the average Joe can't afford to fuel and drive one of these behemouths on a daily basis.
Something's gotta give, and that something will be GM's stock price. I foresee bankruptcy protection in their future.
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Originally Posted by MGCMAN
Well at least these Saturns don't have panel gaps that you can stick your finger through. (I should wait for an actual production vehicle to really make that comment.)
Originally Posted by MGCMAN
appalling quality, Hugely overpriced junk IMO.
GM products of the past may have had horrible interior materials and huge panel gaps, but that's initial quality, which has nothing to do with the true quality of a car.
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Originally Posted by PARTSMAN109
The Saturn Aura looks like a made over Impala...
For the record, the Aura is based on the Chevy Malibu/Pontiac G6/Saab 9-3 platform...it shares nothing with the Impala, which is much larger and looks absolutely nothing like it.
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Originally Posted by goaljnky
It would seem that "horrible interior materials and huge panel gaps" have everything to do with a true quality of the car.
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Originally Posted by snooter
I have'nt seen it yet, but saturn also has a new 2007 car that looks like the pontiac solstice. I think it's called "sky"
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Originally Posted by KRGMini05
Explain to me how cheap plastics in the interior and slightly larger panel gaps (due to polymer body panels in Saturn's case) has ANYTHING to do with the reliablily of a car...
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Originally Posted by motor on
Actually Derived from the Lotus platform, simplified by Vuxhaull the imported rebranded (almost the same body panels) swap engines and you have the Saturn SKY. So yes it may still be a Saturn (I don't know why thats a bad thing, they had many of the same goals as MINI when they were independent) but it stems from one of the best handling cars on the planet.
The Saturn SKY/Pontiac Solstice are on an entirely new platform (it's called Kappa). They share nothing at all with the Lotus, and both are built in Wilmington, Delaware, not imported.
Here's the confusion...the Vauxhall/Opel that's derived from the Lotus was just killed. It is being replaced with a re-badged version of the SKY, fitted with a turbo, and is being imported into Europe FROM America. It will be known in Europe as the Opel GT.
An that's the scoop.
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Originally Posted by KRGMini05
They both have 4 wheels and 4 doors, aside from that, I dont see it
For the record, the Aura is based on the Chevy Malibu/Pontiac G6/Saab 9-3 platform...it shares nothing with the Impala, which is much larger and looks absolutely nothing like it.
For the record, the Aura is based on the Chevy Malibu/Pontiac G6/Saab 9-3 platform...it shares nothing with the Impala, which is much larger and looks absolutely nothing like it.
The pic you posted makes the car look a lot bigger than a Malibu. If you can't see the similarities between the Aura and the Impala, you need glasses.
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Originally Posted by PARTSMAN109
The new Malibu(with the exception of the Maxx) looks just like a small version of the Impala. So the Aura is a Malibu instead, who cares.
The pic you posted makes the car look a lot bigger than a Malibu. If you can't see the similarities between the Aura and the Impala, you need glasses.
The pic you posted makes the car look a lot bigger than a Malibu. If you can't see the similarities between the Aura and the Impala, you need glasses.
Anyway, the Malibu look nothing like the Impala, either. Both have no style at all, but they dont look alike. The Malibu is overly boxy with sharp creases all over, the Implala has almost no hard lines. Both look very American though, and neither one of them is attractive. The Aura look very European, and has a bit of style. I would never buy one, I'm just saying it was unexpected from GM.
I think you need the glasses.
Last edited by MINIclo; 04-11-2006 at 09:42 AM. Reason: Inappropriate language and disrespectful to another member.
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