http://www.x5world.com/articles.php?...ticle&artid=59

their is now a version 25 of the Nav system. Anyone got a Mini with this yet? Can you tell any differences?

Howard

 

Just waiting for the V25 software to be posted so I can burn it and install.

 

Guys,

I have v25 installed on my MINI and it's just fine. I can't tell if there are any changes or not (I doubt it though). I have a copy of the image file available if someone has a place to host it (it's six 20MB files and one 8MB file which extract out to a 268MB image file). If someone wants to host it for other MINI owners to download, just send me a PM with the upload details and I'll put it up there ASAP.

BTW, v25 updates the MKIV nav system (i.e. the DVD-based nav system in the MINI) to version 4-1/50.

 

using it lose the Mini Logo that turns on when you turn on the car? If not I'll give it a try. Also can you tell if it removes that annoying issue where if you hit cancel guiding it doesn't remove that white line to your destiantion and it keeps updating it?

 

Hi Howard,

1) Yes, the MINI logo still displays just fine after updating my nav system to v25.

2) No, the white routing line continues to appear after canceling a destination guidance as far as I can see.

As I mentioned before, I can't really see any differences at all between v24 (i.e. the 4-1/40 version that my car's nav system came installed with) and v25 (i.e. 4-1/50). However, you'd think that they had to of done something (such as bug fixes at least) between version 40 and version 50 now wouldn't you???

I guess that there's no harm in having the latest version installed though.

BTW, just for kicks, here's a shot of my settings screen with v25 installed:

 

Never seen that 70 mph in the middle next to the temp reading. Anyways tell me what we need to do and I'll give it a try. It seems BMW just likes to released updated #'s rather then fixing issues.

Howard

 

Hi Howard,

That "70 mph" display is the speed limit alarm that's part of the On Board Computer. You can set a small alarm to sound anytime the set speed is reached (mine is currently set to sound at 70 mph). Just hit the main "Menu" on your nav computer's display, go to the On Board Computer menu item, and scroll down to the speed limit item.

As for what you need to do in order to try it... All you need to do is burn the v25 image file onto a CD-ROM and then insert it into your nav computer (with the ignition turned on). The software takes care of the rest for you. The only problem is getting a hold of the v25 image file. I have it, but as I mentioned, I don't have a place to host it. Thus, if someone is willing to host the image file on their FTP site for other MINI owners to access, I'd be more than happy to upload it there for everyone. Other than that, I believe that you might be able to find a copy of the v25 image file on eMule. Lastly, if you're patient, a link to download it may eventually turn up on X5World as well.

I hope this helps some...

EDIT: BTW, if you have a CD-based nav system in your MINI (i.e. MKIII), then there hasn't been any changes made to the software for your nav system since v22 was released (i.e. 3-1/63). Thus, you can just download v22 from the link on X5World. Otherwise, if you have a DVD-based nav system in your MINI (i.e. MKIV), then v25 is indeed the latest version (i.e. 4-1/50). Although, I don't believe that there has been any "noticeable" changes made for the North American MINI units since v23 (i.e. 4-1/30).

 

I would be happy to post the file on my website for at least a little while.

that is, if you can figure out how to get it to me.

Eric


uh, the bulletin appears to imply the only change is the menu replaces the word "freeway" with "highway" in two spots.

if that's the case, screw it. anyone know if that's all? or are those the only cosmetic changes, and there are routing fixes?

 

Hi Eric,

You would need to provide me with FTP access in order for me to upload it to your site. If you give me the FTP address along with a user name and password (if it's not an anonymous logon that is), I can use that to upload the file to your server. You could then host it on your web site, etc.

Other than that, I just checked eMule again and the image is available from there now (i.e. it may be easier for you to just go and get it from eMule instead).

As for the changes... You're probably right and that's all the changes there are (or at least all that BMW will admit to anyway ).

 

Couldn't find it on eMule. Can you supply a link?

Jerry

 

Here are a couple of ed2k links from eMule for the files I found:

BMW Navigaton Software Update v25 March 2005 alcohol120% image.rar

ed2k://|file|BMW%20Navigaton%20Software%20Update%20v25%20 March%202005%20alcohol120%%20image.rar|135536163|4 3069FAC33B2EF79FC09F0B1F7003F2F|/

BMW Navigaton Software Update v25 March 2005 Clonecd Image.zip

ed2k://|file|BMW%20Navigaton%20Software%20Update%20v25%20 March%202005%20Clonecd%20Image.zip|167275262|0D2E6 6D38EBEF2A4A3349CE8735880CD|/

 

The rar files are being uploaded to http://ijerry.com/nav25/

It is 7 rar files, 6 are 20mb and one is 8mb. You need them all and WinRAR to unzip it into the image file. I may try to upload the giant img file tomorrow.

Jerry

 

Is this changing the maps too? Or is this just for the features and you keep the maps you already have. I live in VA. And I'd like to have the v25 but if I don't keep my VA map I don't want it. As in features is this like the bar at the bottom of the pict. and speech and settings. Please Help! I don't really know much about the nav. sys. Thanks in advance

 

Matt,

All of the map data for your navigation system is stored on the DVD (or CD depending on how old your MINI is) that is inserted in the navigation computer under the passenger's seat of your MINI. The map data is totally separate from what we are talking about here. The v25 update that we are all on about is an update to the software that controlls the navigation computer itself (i.e. the firmware). It has nothing to do with your maps.

Since you won't really see any changes by updating your navigation computer's firmware (with v25), I'd take it like the old saying goes... If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.

However, if you do decide to go ahead with the update. Here's how it goes:

1. Download the v25 navi update.

2. Burn the image file you've downloaded to a CD-ROM using a program such as Clone CD or Alcohol 120%, etc.

3. Turn the ignition on your MINI to the ON position so that you can see your nav display.

4. Eject the map data DVD out of your navigation computer (again, it's in a little cubby hole under your passenger's seat - accessed from the back seat area).

5. Insert the CD you've created/burned from the v25 image file that you downloaded and the computer will automatically recognize the inserted CD and begin updating its firmware.

6. Once the update has completed, eject the CD and then re-insert your map data DVD.

That's it...

 

My program to combine the .rar images keeps saying error and is aking for part04, is something missing, and then it just makes a BMW Navi v25.ccd gile but it is only 4k in size?

Ahh I must have been downloading while you were uploading i now see more parts....

 

Yes, the upload just finished late last night. There should be six 20 MB files and one (just under) 8 MB file. If you still can't get it to work after re-downloading. Let me know and I'll see what can be done to fix it.

EDIT: I see that there's also a single 155 MB ZIP file on the site now that has the image file in it. Thus, if you have a good, fast connection, you might want to go for that one instead.

 

"the bulletin appears to imply the only change is the menu replaces the word "freeway" with "highway" in two spots."



Mine actually says Motorway instead of freeway, people in the car always find that pretty funny. Wonder if I'll lose my British version if I upgrade.


Howard

 

It's all up there now. I also uploaded a 155mb zip file of the img.

On my Mac, I opened the image in Toast Titanium and burned it to a CD. Worked great. On a PC, it should work the same with your burning software.

You only need the ONE zip file or you will need all 7 of the rar files. Just uncompress them using WinRAR or WinZip and you will have the CD Image to burn to your CD.

Installation note: Eject the Map DVD and insert the v25 upgrade CD you burned. Wait, wait..it may take 30-60 seconds before the "Installing" screen pops up. Then wait for it to finish and display the OK button. It will eject the CD at the end, replace the Map DVD and it should be finished. On your setup screen, the last number on the top right should now be 50.

I have not noticed any visable changes in this verion. Probably just bug fixes and more efficient routing. In the next few days, I will upload a version of the image that will give you the british voice instead of the USA voice.

Files are at http://www.ijerry.com/nav25/

Enjoy!

Jerry

 

My Mini is an 02. The corner reads SW 3-1/60 or 63 but I think thats the map set. Thanks for the help. But does adding the v25 give you the temp and your set speed on the bottom bar. (Will the dealer update this? If so how much?) And I do have the DVD Sys.

Thanks again

 

Hi Matt,

Since your version number is in the form of 3-1/xx, that means that you have the older (MKIII) CD-Based system. Your car should have come with a whole set of CDs that included map coverage for all of North America. The newer (MKIV) DVD-based nav systems have a version number in the form of 4-1/xx and they use a single DVD that contains the map data for all of North America on the one DVD instead (i.e. there's no need to have to swap discs as you drive across the country as you do with your system).

The (MKIV) DVD-based systems have several advantages over the older (MKIII) CD-based systems such as being significantly faster, not having to swap discs as you move from location-to-location across the country, and they have many more firmware/operating system features (such as the temperature display, speed limit warning, Destinations+ feature, etc.). See the following links for a bit more info:

Why upgrade to a BMW MKIV Navigation Computers?
http://www.bimmernav.com/why_mkiv.htm

How to operate BMW MKIV Navigation Destinations +
http://www.bimmernav.com/destinations.htm

Also, the 3-1/xx number shown in the upper corner of your settings menu refers to the version number of your system (e.g. 3-1) and the version number of the firmware (i.e. operating system) that's currently loaded onto your system (i.e. the "xx" part). The ONLY way to tell what map data version you are currently using is to eject the map data CD from your system and look at it. It should have a version number like 2002-2, 2003-2, etc. written on it. Where the first number is the year that the map data was released and the second number is the quarter (1, 2, 3, or 4) in which it was released. Until just recently, the latest/newest map data available for the MINI was 2003-2. However, there's now a 2005-2 map data set available from NavTeq (i.e. the folks who provide the map data to BMW/MINI).

As I mentioned previously, version 3-1/63 is the latest firmware version currently available for the CD-based (MKIII) systems. Thus, if you already have 3-1/63 installed, then downloading and installing the v25 navi firmware update won't do you any good. It will simply tell you that your system is already up to date. If you are interested in getting an updated set of CDs for the map data on your nav system instead (this is what most folks would want), then you can contact NavTeq (www.navteq.com) and order a set directly from them, or you can talk with your local MINI dealer (although since the 2005-2 map data set just became available, odds are that your dealer won't have a clue - as they never do ). I'm not sure how much the updated CD map set costs, but the DVD map set runs right around $225.

I hope this helps some...

 

I uploaded the British voice version of the upgrade today to the site. This is only for the DVD based Nav that does not come with the British Voice as an option. The Brit voice replaces the Yank voice so you won't have access to the USA voice if you use that version.

It's all at http://ijerry.com/nav25/ including instructions.

Jerry

 

Unless you replaced the computer yourself, that's not possible.

The DVD based system wasn't installed in MINIs until March 2003. If you have a 2002 you don't have a DVD system

 

My nav system is setup to use the GB voice and even after doing the v25 update it still says "motorway". Also, the "freeway" to "highway" change must only be for navs setup for the U.S. as mine still reads "motorway" on the avoidance screen. However, please note that I'm not using the hacked software that continues to use the US loacation but replaces the voice files with the GB ones. My nav system actually came from the factory with the GB settings option and so I didn't have to hack it in order to get the GB voice. Thus, your results may be a bit different from mine.