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Old 03-12-2017, 05:42 PM
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Does anyone know of an independent shop willing to do this install in the Southeast?
I'm in NC.
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I have a 2016 CM ALL4S with HK Bluetooth, connected, voice and SAT radio.which means I have a screen. So can I buy codes from a dealer to activate Nav or do I need an additional piece of hardware installed?

Ive read the complete thread and its great info but a bit confusing to me.

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Old 03-24-2017, 01:24 PM
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2012 R57 Nav retrofit

Everything is back together and running ok, the only problem now is the Combox and I am not sure if this needs an FSC code as well as the Sirius radio option everything else in the car is fine.
If I can get this combox working then I'll be a happy person but untill then I'll keep searching for the fix.



Main Screen



Menu to USB and Blutooth



Still not getting the USB and Bluetooth to operate from Combox



Phone option not working due to combox







Nav working fine and acurate



Need to update nav map as this is 2013



Mini connected option on screen but not working due to Combox?



All options available but not working





On board computer working fine

The Donor Car equipment was listed with the following:-
653- Hi Def Radio,
693- Satellite Tuner Prep,
6FP-Radio Visual Boost,
6NE-Enhanced Bluetooth Mobile Prep,
6NF-Ext.Con of music play,
6NM-Mini Connected,
6UF-Traffic Info,
6UM-Mini Nav,
6VC-Combox,
620-Voice input system.

Have now gone with the OEM FSC codes and coded them in with ISTA-P and ICOM all is working perfect

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Old 03-25-2017, 11:07 AM
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I have a 2016 CM ALL4S with HK Bluetooth, connected, voice and SAT radio.which means I have a screen. So can I buy codes from a dealer to activate Nav or do I need an additional piece of hardware installed?

Ive read the complete thread and its great info but a bit confusing to me.

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From what i understand you have the newer NBT H/U so everything is in the unit rather than Combox with the older versions so I think its just a case of coding?
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Old 03-25-2017, 11:31 AM
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Thank you, now to find out if its a code that someone can do or I need to buy the code from Mini.
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:14 AM
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Ive called 3 Mini dealers. Their Parts dept's all agree that for model year 2016 and the Options in my car all I should need is a code and programming. Their service depts. also seem to agree somewhat but wont go the extra mile to confirm. They all state that If I want and of course at my cost they would get me a code and try to program. I don't mind and certainly expect to pay, but they all say that if they cant make it work I still have to pay for both the code and labor. I'm more than willing to go ahead of anyone of them would call, write etc to Mini to try and confirm.
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Old 04-23-2017, 11:17 AM
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Ive called 3 Mini dealers. Their Parts dept's all agree that for model year 2016 and the Options in my car all I should need is a code and programming. Their service depts. also seem to agree somewhat but wont go the extra mile to confirm. They all state that If I want and of course at my cost they would get me a code and try to program. I don't mind and certainly expect to pay, but they all say that if they cant make it work I still have to pay for both the code and labor. I'm more than willing to go ahead of anyone of them would call, write etc to Mini to try and confirm.
If your mini is prepped for it then it just needs a code check here and add the last 7 of your vin and see http://bimmer.work/. I just added my NAV FSC from the dealer yesterday and works perfect no problems just have to order my Sirius FSC code to activate my SAT Radio
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Hope it all works out.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:13 AM
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What am I looking for in the list of options? Belo0w is what is showing.

6FP
Radio Mini Visual Boost
Radio Mini Visual Boost
6NE
Enhanced Bluetooth Mobile Preparati
Erweiterte Handy Vorbereitung Bluet
6NF
Ext.con.of The Music Play.i.mobilph
Music-schnittstelle Fuer Smartphone
6NM
Mini Connected
Mini Connected
6VC
Control Combox
Steuerung Combox
620
Voice Input System
Spracheingabesystem
655
Satellite Radio
Satellitentuner
674
Hifi Loudspeaker System Harman Kardon
Hifi-system Harman/kardon
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What am I looking for in the list of options? Belo0w is what is showing.

6FP
Radio Mini Visual Boost
Radio Mini Visual Boost
6NE
Enhanced Bluetooth Mobile Preparati
Erweiterte Handy Vorbereitung Bluet
6NF
Ext.con.of The Music Play.i.mobilph
Music-schnittstelle Fuer Smartphone
6NM
Mini Connected
Mini Connected
6VC
Control Combox
Steuerung Combox
620
Voice Input System
Spracheingabesystem
655
Satellite Radio
Satellitentuner
674
Hifi Loudspeaker System Harman Kardon
Hifi-system Harman/kardon
Well it looks like you would have to swap out your H/U if you want Navigation as you only have Visual boost radio with no Nav
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Finishing the process of installing a CCC into my 2009 MCS (got a decent deal from my local junkyard; otherwise might have gone the newer CIC route instead). I will post some more information about my install later, but just realized that this unmarked black thing on the CID (video display) ground wire had broken. The screen is still functional without it connected, so I'm just trying to figure out if I can simply bypass it with a solid ground wire or find a replacement electrical part from Radio Shack or Digikey. Anyone know what it is/ does?




And as a teaser for my retrofit project, here is the view from my front-facing camera:

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Snap In Adapter Arm Rest Retrofit Wiring

Hello, am doing the Navigation Connected Retrofit into my MCS07 and also want to add the Arm Rest with the Snap in Adapter. Has anyone done this and if so, can someone help me with the wiring to the combox. Thanks in Advance
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Gentlemen,

All great stuff here, thanks for your how-to's and write-ups!

I am preparing a retrofit of a 2009 R55 with a CCC. Parts are all here, except for the GPS cable. Antenna is mounted already, now I am trying to figure out what part number to buy for the cable and where it is routed through the cabin.

Any thoughts, does anybody know we're the cable is mounted?


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Old 08-19-2017, 09:07 AM
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Gentlemen,

All great stuff here, thanks for your how-to's and write-ups!

I am preparing a retrofit of a 2009 R55 with a CCC. Parts are all here, except for the GPS cable. Antenna is mounted already, now I am trying to figure out what part number to buy for the cable and where it is routed through the cabin.

Any thoughts, does anybody know we're the cable is mounted?


Best wishes

Cgr
I ordered 16 feet of cable from Amazon it's a basic cable with two blue female fakra ends which sitll should be the correts color for the antenna. Was only $14 bucks.
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Old 08-19-2017, 09:29 AM
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I did not replace the OEM antenna so I did not have to run the cable but if I have to guess it should run the same place where your radio antenna runs.
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:46 AM
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Well it looks like you would have to swap out your H/U if you want Navigation as you only have Visual boost radio with no Nav

So looking on RealOem.com the part number for my car with and without Nav. are the same for the HU and display. Wondering what it should cost to buy the code and have the dealer try it.
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They might charge an hour flash or more. I know the codes can sometimes be expensive.
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Good morning,

Starting to disassemble my r55 from 2009 now to get the CCC in. All looks good so far, but I am not sure how to do the wiring..

Did you replace the whole harness on the dashboard, or you just fixed the differences manually?

For the differences I am getting the impression that there aren't too many - so far only the GPS cable and the joystick are obvious, maybe the fan of the CCC, too. Anything else I should adjust?

If it is really not a lot more, I rather leave the existing harness than messing with the guts of the dashboard that intensely...


Thanks for your help and thoughts!

cgr
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Good morning,

Starting to disassemble my r55 from 2009 now to get the CCC in. All looks good so far, but I am not sure how to do the wiring..

Did you replace the whole harness on the dashboard, or you just fixed the differences manually?

For the differences I am getting the impression that there aren't too many - so far only the GPS cable and the joystick are obvious, maybe the fan of the CCC, too. Anything else I should adjust?

If it is really not a lot more, I rather leave the existing harness than messing with the guts of the dashboard...
Definitely do not need to replace the existing wiring! I did the exact same conversion. I hand-built a cable for the joystick and (referring to the wiring diagrams) spliced it into the main radio harness. There are only four wires — power, ground, CAN bus High, CAN bus Low. Posi-Tap connectors are your friend — buy a handful and save yourself a lot of swearing and mistakes.

my CCC came without the fan attached; I wasn't even aware of it until later. It survived one summer OK so I guess it's fine, but longevity may suffer. (But these cars get totaled or die of German-design old age before 200k so I don't think that matters.)
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... the differences I am getting the impression that there aren't too many - so far only the GPS cable and the joystick are obvious, maybe the fan of the CCC, too. Anything else I should adjust?
Got cut off; NAM's mobile web editor is glitchy. Regarding the GPS cable, I bought a GPS antenna with FAKRA connector for $11 on eBay. Look for a listing that mentions BMW or VW compatibility.

instead of replacing the entire radio antenna system to use the GPS antenna in a factory setup, I just used adhesive 3M Dual Lock fastener to mount the antenna inside the dash. Place it as far foreword as you can easily manage to maximize its "view" of the sky.

someimes simpler is better. This is one of those times.

while the built in nav was nice what I really liked was finally having a usable way to browse and search the music in my iPhone built into the dash.
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Just a quick status from my side: Just fired up my Nav last weekend ;-)

What I did so far:
- Replaced the roof antenna by the Mini GPS antenna
- Ran new generic 4 m antenna cable to dashboard (a little bit of spare, 3.5m would have been enough, because I used the original first bit of cable run out of a spare wiring harness for the dashboard)
- Disassembled 80 percent of the dashboard
- Installed new joystick
- Installed new speedometer with CID
- Installed new CCC
- Build a adapter wiring harness, mainly connecting 12V, ground and CAN H/L from existing harness
- Ran new wires for some of the 12V and ground connections to passenger side circuit breaker module
- Build a wiring harness for the CCC fan and the old AUX IN (as backup, as I have BT installed there is a AUX IN / USB connector already through the MULF(?))

So far all is good. Now I need to run a new ground cable still (bigger diameter for more current needed by CCC), reassemble dashboard, and finally code the CCC so that it fits to my VO (or FA in German).



Will keep you posted :-)
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