Navigation & Audio Any idea when 2010 NAV dvd will be released?
1st Gear
Joined: May 2007
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From: Boston, MA
This is almost a tangent on this thread but I think it's relevant to the new MAPS....
Previously, the SATNAV knew not to send me on HWY66 eastbound after the DC beltway because....(I assumed)...it knew that the highway has all lanes marked HOV2 during the morning rush. Well, I decided to let My trusty SATNAV guide me as I am not feeling 100% today. I skipped getting on 495S (the outerloop of the beltway).
It's no excuse, but I totally missed the fact that I was passing the beltway on hwy66 when I see the lights flashing in an unmarked police car and guess what?...I get pulled over for HOV violation.
YIKES! So I was honest with the cops and said "I just changed the disc on my GPS and it never did this before, routing me into an HOV+ road" ...etc... I get the fine, no loss in points, but that was definitely unexpected bill for $125. And the Cop says, "Hey, we are out here every day" to which I reply, "See, and you have never seen me come out this way until now because I let the NAV guide me!!" We both chuckle, he gives my MINI an up and down double take, (like saying, why cut you some slack when you drive a car like that), and that's that. Darn.
So besides the fact that I should have known better, I have this question for the SATNAV gurus out there:
Does the system, or did it before, know to not route you into HOV traffic without asking first? I never got asked before, but somehow the 2009.1 Maps never put me into that situation (where all lanes of the HWY are HOV). I am not counting the situation where only the outer most left lane is HOV.
I have been driving this route for 7 months on the 2009.1 SATNAV DVD Professional. Sure I know my way, but I still program the dynamic route so that if "traffic disruptions" occur, I get the alert and rerouted. [That's nice, when you are listening to Slacker Radio
or the iPod function on your iPhone].
Did we lose that feature of HOV avoidance with the 2010 Maps? Perhaps, it was just fate that I had never been routed into the HOV before, but today was the fateful day.
O.k., back to lunch and nursing my sore throat....and pride....and pocket book.
Summary
1)Does MINI SATNAV know to avoid or alert that a route it selects uses the HOV lanes?
2)Anybody else noticing different behaviour with the new 2010 Map INFO?
Previously, the SATNAV knew not to send me on HWY66 eastbound after the DC beltway because....(I assumed)...it knew that the highway has all lanes marked HOV2 during the morning rush. Well, I decided to let My trusty SATNAV guide me as I am not feeling 100% today. I skipped getting on 495S (the outerloop of the beltway).
It's no excuse, but I totally missed the fact that I was passing the beltway on hwy66 when I see the lights flashing in an unmarked police car and guess what?...I get pulled over for HOV violation.
YIKES! So I was honest with the cops and said "I just changed the disc on my GPS and it never did this before, routing me into an HOV+ road" ...etc... I get the fine, no loss in points, but that was definitely unexpected bill for $125. And the Cop says, "Hey, we are out here every day" to which I reply, "See, and you have never seen me come out this way until now because I let the NAV guide me!!" We both chuckle, he gives my MINI an up and down double take, (like saying, why cut you some slack when you drive a car like that), and that's that. Darn.
So besides the fact that I should have known better, I have this question for the SATNAV gurus out there:
Does the system, or did it before, know to not route you into HOV traffic without asking first? I never got asked before, but somehow the 2009.1 Maps never put me into that situation (where all lanes of the HWY are HOV). I am not counting the situation where only the outer most left lane is HOV.
I have been driving this route for 7 months on the 2009.1 SATNAV DVD Professional. Sure I know my way, but I still program the dynamic route so that if "traffic disruptions" occur, I get the alert and rerouted. [That's nice, when you are listening to Slacker Radio
or the iPod function on your iPhone].Did we lose that feature of HOV avoidance with the 2010 Maps? Perhaps, it was just fate that I had never been routed into the HOV before, but today was the fateful day.
O.k., back to lunch and nursing my sore throat....and pride....and pocket book.
Summary
1)Does MINI SATNAV know to avoid or alert that a route it selects uses the HOV lanes?
2)Anybody else noticing different behaviour with the new 2010 Map INFO?
4th Gear
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 362
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From: Ashburn, Virginia
I went ahead and reported this on teleatlas Map website where you can pinpoint spots on the roads that need updates for future map releases. So I put that HWY 66 has restrictions depending on the time of day and direction of travel.
I am asking you to do the same. Report HOV conditions or carpool lane restrictions so that TeleAtlas will incorporate that into the logic of the SatNav system.
I am asking you to do the same. Report HOV conditions or carpool lane restrictions so that TeleAtlas will incorporate that into the logic of the SatNav system.
Neutral
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
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From: Rochester Hills, MI
A Garmin is a better deal and a good deal better than updating the MINI NAV
Guys, I think you should do the math.
The MINI nav in my wife's '08 Clubman sucks. It doesn't announce street names. It doesn't give the fastest routes. It doesn't tell you what side of the street your destination is on. You can't select British or Australian English male or female voices. Apparently it puts you on highways that can get you a traffic ticket. And it costs $200 to update the maps with a cumbersome pair of DVDs. My wife prefers the Garmin nuvi I carry in my '07 MCS. It shows a PW/Checker MINI instead of the incredibly clever OEM circle (???) to show present location. I paid $125 for the nuvi. I have a lifetime of map updates for a one-time charge of $89 and there are 4 map updates per year. For a little more $ than a MINI Nav map update, you can get a Garmin with lifetime map updates and way more functionality and portability. You can get special city explorer maps with more POI. You can get foreign maps at reasonable cost. Firmware updates are free to download. I can sit in my livingroom and enter addresses and look at routes. You can subscribe to a service that gives the locations of photo radar and traffic light radar. You can put in waypoints (for those MINI excursions.) It has excellent bluetooth for clear, hands-free cell phone conversations. It can show pics of our grandkids stored on a simple SD card. It has free traffic updates. I can take it with me on business trips and use it in the rental car. I guess the only drawbacks are that it needs to be plugged in (big deal), it doesn't mute the radio when it gives directions, the suction cup mounting covers the speedo (so what), and finally it needs to be hidden from view when parking the MINI to minimize risk of its theft. But other than that, I really fail to see the point of having built-in Nav, especially when it's an outrageously expensive option. (We bought the Clubman from dealer stock - never would have ordered nav.)
The MINI nav in my wife's '08 Clubman sucks. It doesn't announce street names. It doesn't give the fastest routes. It doesn't tell you what side of the street your destination is on. You can't select British or Australian English male or female voices. Apparently it puts you on highways that can get you a traffic ticket. And it costs $200 to update the maps with a cumbersome pair of DVDs. My wife prefers the Garmin nuvi I carry in my '07 MCS. It shows a PW/Checker MINI instead of the incredibly clever OEM circle (???) to show present location. I paid $125 for the nuvi. I have a lifetime of map updates for a one-time charge of $89 and there are 4 map updates per year. For a little more $ than a MINI Nav map update, you can get a Garmin with lifetime map updates and way more functionality and portability. You can get special city explorer maps with more POI. You can get foreign maps at reasonable cost. Firmware updates are free to download. I can sit in my livingroom and enter addresses and look at routes. You can subscribe to a service that gives the locations of photo radar and traffic light radar. You can put in waypoints (for those MINI excursions.) It has excellent bluetooth for clear, hands-free cell phone conversations. It can show pics of our grandkids stored on a simple SD card. It has free traffic updates. I can take it with me on business trips and use it in the rental car. I guess the only drawbacks are that it needs to be plugged in (big deal), it doesn't mute the radio when it gives directions, the suction cup mounting covers the speedo (so what), and finally it needs to be hidden from view when parking the MINI to minimize risk of its theft. But other than that, I really fail to see the point of having built-in Nav, especially when it's an outrageously expensive option. (We bought the Clubman from dealer stock - never would have ordered nav.)
Last edited by Enginemayer; Dec 29, 2010 at 09:25 PM. Reason: corrections
6th Gear
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: Vancouver, WA
Guys, I think you should do the math.
The MINI nav in my wife's '08 Clubman sucks. It doesn't announce street names. It doesn't give the fastest routes. It doesn't tell you what side of the street your destination is on. You can't select British or Australian English male or female voices. Apparently it puts you on highways that can get you a traffic ticket. And it costs $200 to update the maps with a cumbersome pair of DVDs. My wife prefers the Garmin nuvi I carry in my '07 MCS. It shows a PW/Checker MINI instead of the incredibly clever OEM circle (???) to show present location. I paid $125 for the nuvi. I have a lifetime of map updates for a one-time charge of $89 and there are 4 map updates per year. For a little more $ than a MINI Nav map update, you can get a Garmin with lifetime map updates and way more functionality and portability. You can get special city explorer maps with more POI. You can get foreign maps at reasonable cost. Firmware updates are free to download. I can sit in my livingroom and enter addresses and look at routes. You can subscribe to a service that gives the locations of photo radar and traffic light radar. You can put in waypoints (for those MINI excursions.) It has excellent bluetooth for clear, hands-free cell phone conversations. It can show pics of our grandkids stored on a simple SD card. It has free traffic updates. I can take it with me on business trips and use it in the rental car. I guess the only drawbacks are that it needs to be plugged in (big deal), it doesn't mute the radio when it gives directions, the suction cup mounting covers the speedo (so what), and finally it needs to be hidden from view when parking the MINI to minimize risk of its theft. But other than that, I really fail to see the point of having built-in Nav, especially when it's an outrageously expensive option. (We bought the Clubman from dealer stock - never would have ordered nav.)
The MINI nav in my wife's '08 Clubman sucks. It doesn't announce street names. It doesn't give the fastest routes. It doesn't tell you what side of the street your destination is on. You can't select British or Australian English male or female voices. Apparently it puts you on highways that can get you a traffic ticket. And it costs $200 to update the maps with a cumbersome pair of DVDs. My wife prefers the Garmin nuvi I carry in my '07 MCS. It shows a PW/Checker MINI instead of the incredibly clever OEM circle (???) to show present location. I paid $125 for the nuvi. I have a lifetime of map updates for a one-time charge of $89 and there are 4 map updates per year. For a little more $ than a MINI Nav map update, you can get a Garmin with lifetime map updates and way more functionality and portability. You can get special city explorer maps with more POI. You can get foreign maps at reasonable cost. Firmware updates are free to download. I can sit in my livingroom and enter addresses and look at routes. You can subscribe to a service that gives the locations of photo radar and traffic light radar. You can put in waypoints (for those MINI excursions.) It has excellent bluetooth for clear, hands-free cell phone conversations. It can show pics of our grandkids stored on a simple SD card. It has free traffic updates. I can take it with me on business trips and use it in the rental car. I guess the only drawbacks are that it needs to be plugged in (big deal), it doesn't mute the radio when it gives directions, the suction cup mounting covers the speedo (so what), and finally it needs to be hidden from view when parking the MINI to minimize risk of its theft. But other than that, I really fail to see the point of having built-in Nav, especially when it's an outrageously expensive option. (We bought the Clubman from dealer stock - never would have ordered nav.)
4th Gear
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 362
Likes: 2
From: Ashburn, Virginia
Hi Folks, I'm reviving this thread with an update. I didn't see where this was reported before.
The latest version of the DVD now avoids the HOV restricted area of HWY 66 in the Washington DC area. It's like they took my recommendation and went a step further. Instead of giving me the option to use HWY 66 inside the beltway during non-peak times, the SATNAV logic now does not allow me to pick HWY 66 at all unless my destination includes HWY66 outside the Capitol Beltway (US 495).
Just in case anyone is tracking this... Here is the link to: TeleAtlas MINIGPS website
Cheers.
The latest version of the DVD now avoids the HOV restricted area of HWY 66 in the Washington DC area. It's like they took my recommendation and went a step further. Instead of giving me the option to use HWY 66 inside the beltway during non-peak times, the SATNAV logic now does not allow me to pick HWY 66 at all unless my destination includes HWY66 outside the Capitol Beltway (US 495).
Just in case anyone is tracking this... Here is the link to: TeleAtlas MINIGPS website
Cheers.
Last edited by Derepente; Sep 4, 2011 at 08:06 AM.
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