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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Can you tell us the number on the cable?
Is the part number visible on the cable someplace? If so I'll yank it and check. I have a feeling it's a brand new part number.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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I just tried on my '10 Cooper with USB cable PN 61 12 0 440 796 and my iPhone 3GS, and I got the same old "This device isn't supported for charging" error as generally reported. If there _is_ a new cable for '10, it didn't get into my car at the factory. (Or is that done at the dealership?)

That said, having used the stereo integration on my wife's Clubman S, I'm sort of underwhelmed with it. It might be OK with smaller storage devices, but 2 lines of scrollable data just sucks when you're trying to find an [artist|album|song] near the middle of the alphabet. I'm perfectly happy with my Griffin Autopilot, although I want to figure out a better way of routing the cable up to my Cravenspeed Flexpod iPhone mount. The major loss is that I can't use the wheel mounted controls to skip tracks, but I'll live. It _is_ sort of annoying that it seems as though the car is presenting a bluetooth AV profile to the car, but not actually doing anything with the music data the iPhone is sending it. Quelle slick, BMW.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinC
Is the part number visible on the cable someplace? If so I'll yank it and check. I have a feeling it's a brand new part number.
It should be on the cable in a very small font.

I have the 61120440796 Y-Cable, which in August I was told was the latest one.

It does not charge my 3GS in 2008 Mini Cooper S.

I tried to provide additional charging power via the cigarette lighter as suggested earlier in this thread. I did this with the Apricorn splitter from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._ya_oh_product) but doesn't charge the phone either. Tried it with 2 different USB Car Lighter-USB adapters and both didn't work.

Will post here if I find a solution.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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I tried to provide additional charging power via the cigarette lighter as suggested earlier in this thread. I did this with the Apricorn splitter from Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00..._ya_oh_product) but doesn't charge the phone either. Tried it with 2 different USB Car Lighter-USB adapters and both didn't work.
I'm surprised that it isn't working for you. Mine works fine in my 2009 MCS. Are you sure you have the right cables plugged into the Apricorn splitter? The black male cable should plug into the Mini and the grey male cable goes into the charger.

 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by xphiledan
I'm surprised that it isn't working for you. Mine works fine in my 2009 MCS. Are you sure you have the right cables plugged into the Apricorn splitter? The black male cable should plug into the Mini and the grey male cable goes into the charger.
It can make a difference whether you plug the iPhone in before or after starting the car. I find that if I start the car first, the regular cable works, but if I plug the iPhone in first and then start, I get the device not supported error.
 

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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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i'll have to give that a try and see if i get the same error.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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I'm not home but I'll check my cable's p/n tomorrow and report back.

I do get an error when plugging in my 3GS - doesn't specifically say anything about charging, just that it's an "unsupported device" or similar, and wants to know if I want to enable airplane mode. But letting the error time out (or answering "no" to the airplane question) and it's fine, showing the normal charging icon, and I've charged it up from near-dead to fully charged. With my iPod Nano (5G), there's no error at all - just reports that it's now connected in "accessory mode" or similar.

Now I'm really curious to see if I have a new p/n.. which might be good news for the rest of you, a solution could be available.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by xphiledan
I'm surprised that it isn't working for you. Mine works fine in my 2009 MCS. Are you sure you have the right cables plugged into the Apricorn splitter? The black male cable should plug into the Mini and the grey male cable goes into the charger.

Yep, that's what I am doing. Not only does it not work, but playing music from my iphone makes a funny noise (when the engine is started) until I disconnect the grey cable from the cigarette-usb charger.

Actually plugging the black male side into the charge DOES charge my phone. But then of course, plugging the gray male into the Mini doesnt show IPOD in the car stereo.

I'll try plugging in everything with the engine started and see if it makes any difference.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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that sound you're hearing is probably a grounding audio issue. i don't know if i had that problem. it sounds like you have a defective cable. do you have an external hard drive you can test it with?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinC
I'm not home but I'll check my cable's p/n tomorrow and report back.

I do get an error when plugging in my 3GS - doesn't specifically say anything about charging, just that it's an "unsupported device" or similar, and wants to know if I want to enable airplane mode. But letting the error time out (or answering "no" to the airplane question) and it's fine, showing the normal charging icon, and I've charged it up from near-dead to fully charged. With my iPod Nano (5G), there's no error at all - just reports that it's now connected in "accessory mode" or similar.

Now I'm really curious to see if I have a new p/n.. which might be good news for the rest of you, a solution could be available.
That's what I get, too. Let the error time out or choose, "No" for airplane mode, and it shows a charging icon.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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I'll try plugging in everything with the engine started and see if it makes any difference.
Ok it did make a difference. Charging and audio work when the iphone is plugged in with the engine started, and there's no more funny noise. Thanks for all your help.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 08:06 PM
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the unsupported device message is normal. just click no, and you should be able to play the ipod.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bersch
It should be on the cable in a very small font.

I have the 61120440796 Y-Cable, which in August I was told was the latest one.
I finally have my cable in hand. The only number anywhere on it is stamped into the middle section, and it's 0440796. Too short to be a p/n and it probably doesn't mean anything.. unfortunately. I'm kicking myself because it was handed to me in a plastic bag with p/n when I bought the car.. should have saved it.

That said - somebody having the issue should check with their local parts department and see if there's a new cable in stock or listed in their system. Should be pretty easy for a parts guy to determine.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Since it matches the last seven digits of the one bersch posted, I'd bet it's the same.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nicknbecka
Since it matches the last seven digits of the one bersch posted, I'd bet it's the same.
<<slaps forehead>>

Duh, I didn't even notice that.. didn't pay attention after seeing I had less digits.

I'm sure you're right, must be the same thing. But it works fine for me.. so is the USB port putting out more juice, or wth is going on here? The plot thickens.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Just got the cradle for my 3gs, charges but doesn't play iphone music. Any ideas?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheStretch
Just got the cradle for my 3gs, charges but doesn't play iphone music. Any ideas?
What cradle? There are about a thousand iphone cradles on the market. Can you be more specific? Brand and model please?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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Cradle # 84 21 2 158 682
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheStretch
Just got the cradle for my 3gs, charges but doesn't play iphone music. Any ideas?
Hmm.. do you have a CD changer? Might not be possible to have both? Bad connection to the cradle? Assuming this is the in-armrest cradle, it should work.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 02:00 AM
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Cradle # 84 21 2 158 682
You'll need cradle number 84 21 2 158 683 and SmartPhone (option 6NF) integration to connect an iPhone 3GS from the armrest and play music.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Like Nicknbecka said, you'll need that ***683 part number. Forgive me for going into details you might know:
It's a big deal at my dealer if you "get an electrical Part" and want to return it. I've been twice to Sterling MINI to pick up the Iphone adapter and realized I needed to have the 3GS adapter not the previous. The model numbers have changed more than once since then. So hopefully, if you know for sure you do have the smartphone option in your car, you can return the adapter you got and get the 683 one.

There is a possibility that your car with smartphone option isn't working, but the dealer will have to verify that.

Also, check out the link to the Bluetooth Phone's compatibility list (with adapter part numbers) in Nicknbecka's signature. He has been keeping that up to date, Thanks!

Good luck!
 
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Old May 6, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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iPhone/iPod Integration Issue

[quote=pfriedel;2953899]...That said, having used the stereo integration on my wife's Clubman S, I'm sort of underwhelmed with it. It might be OK with smaller storage devices, but 2 lines of scrollable data just sucks when you're trying to find an [artist|album|song] near the middle of the alphabet. ...quote]

I have been searching for more posts on this topic - anyone know why they didn't include an alphabetical scroll feature for artist/album/song like the bluetooth phone menu has for the contact list? I agree with pfriedel - my iPhone has 3,459 songs on it, and it is agonizingly tedious to scroll to a desired song, or artist or album that is more than a few letters from the beginning of the alphabet.
 
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