As described in the Vendor Announcement section we have a CROSS Suspension NAM Special going on. $2000 and that includes camber plates. See http://www.dmhmotorsports.net/ for further details about CROSS.

 

Since no one else is commenting, I will. That looks like a really nice option for those who are serious about cornering performance.

I'm not in the market for something, having already gotten the PSS9s where I want them for the time being (front linear rate springs). If were looking for a new set now, this would be high in the research list.

Thanks for bringing another nice option to market Don.

Scott
90SM

 

I picked these up and inspected them while at Farnbacher Loles Xmass party.

They look very meaty and they use these on almost all their customer Porsches. In fact, they are on a very special Porsche high lighted in Car & Driver last fall.

Although the camber perch resemble other perches in the marketplace, the rest of the kit is quite different. I think these are bound and rebound adjustable...Don?

 

Check out: http://cross-na.com/ViewProduct1.asp...1&CarMakeID=17
Special pricing ends soon. $2000; you save $230.
Camber plates are included.
***These camber plates allow for increased suspension travel over most all aftermarket kits. And that is extremely critical for the Mini.

 

In another thread the CROSS suspension was linked to the M7 KTS look-alike coilovers. That association may be correct but there is no truth that the M7/KTS (or whatever) and the JIC/CROSS are similar. KTS is an entry level damper for kids looking to get into drifting with older Japanese cars. CROSS focuses on German cars – Porsche, BMW, MINI, Audi, and Volkswagen.

CROSS Competition coilovers feature:
--2 1/2" linear springs (rather than large barrel springs)
--integrated front bump stops
--the ride height adjustability of both the front and rear is independent from the spring perch so adjusting ride height does not compromise the spring rate or rebound and compression of the damper
--front camber adjustable pillow ball upper mounts (which increases suspension travel)
--a wide range of higher spring rates and for a smooth ride
--no additional charge for custom valving/spring rates

The spread of disinformation…

 

I'm buying coilovers next week, but haven't decided whose yet - what are the spring rates on the Cross coilovers? Do you have them in-stock and ready to ship?

EDIT - I think I found the Cross spring rates, and I'm pretty sure 400lbs front and 225lbs rear would be a little stiff for my personal needs (daily drive and 2-3 autocross events per month).

 

The spring rates are whatever you choose them to be so that they meet your needs. Judging spring rates independently of valving is worthless. All parts are in stock and ready to ship.

 

...and if you factor in that the CROSS comes with camber plates you realize that there is no other damper on the market that can compare for the cost. None.
Thus, if you are in the market for a $1500 coil-over and are going to use them with camber plates these cannot be beat. Shop wisely!

 

Thanks - I'll call or PM you tomorrow about available spring/valving options for my application.

 

I thought you said the coilovers were $2000? Are they $1500 without the plates or something?

 

I think he means that you would spend 500 bux on camber plates with any other set.

 

That.

 

Yep - the front coilovers have camber adjustment integrated into them, making separate camber plates unnecessary.

 

Here are some pictures of the CROSS Competition coilovers.

Fronts:

• camber plates
• inverted durable monotube
• 393 lb/in cool bend spring
• 15-way adjustable dampening from bottom
• independent ride height adjustability

Rears:

• durable monotube
• 225 lb/in cool bend spring
• 15- way adjustable from top (comes with cable)
• independent ride height adjustability

Our introductory pricing will continue until further notice. $2000.

 

So the rears come with extension cables for adjusting the damping? Cool - I had been planning on buying the extension cables separately, and they're $80/set from all the JIC / CROSS dealers I've found so far.

These just keep getting better and better. I can't wait to get them installed.

 

well what if i have camber plates already?

 

VERY VERY nice, Don. Hell of a set-up and the fact that you can control ride hieght should push these out in front.

 

Sell them. The plates that come with these are integrated, so they cannot be substituted...nor would you want to. These are very very strong plates!

 

How does this cable work to adjust the dampening in the rears? Can someone explain how it works or provide a picture for me?

I'm in the market for some coil overs soon and these are looking good!

 

The damping on the rear coilovers is adjusted by a knurled **** on the top of the shock body, so it's not very convenient to get to once the coilover is installed. Fortunately, DMH is including a pair of extended cables so that you can re-position the adjusting ***** to the interior of the car. Here's a picture of the various lengths of adjustment *****:



The extended cable is at the left side of the pic.


You can also read Cor_Blmy's post on how he installed his BC coilovers.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ight=coilovers

If you look at the pictures in the first post of that thread, you'll see that he's using extension cables on the rear BC coilovers.

 

Thanks! That just what i was looking for!

Do this fit a non-S cooper? I remember talking to a vendor a while back about some Tein coilovers where they said they only fit the MCS and another vendor said they fit both. After some phone calls were made it was detemined that they wouldn't fit a MC. Any issues like that with these?

 

Yes, we have a non-S model.

 

missed this the first time around. what's the rebuild interval for a street car? where is the rebuild done (stateside?)?

 

What does CROSS North America do to my coilovers when we rebuild?
Basically, it is replacing moving parts and parts that will wear under heavy use. When we receive your dampers, our highly skilled technicians will open up the coilover, replace the piston if needed, replace the main bearing, apply a new seal, put in a new o-ring, put in new oil, and give it a gas charge. At the same time, our technicians will check to see if there are any other parts that will be needed to replaced. When you get your damper back, it will be brand new internally and it will like the first day you received them.

When I get my Return Authorization Number and the 'go-ahead' to send in the coilovers, what parts should I send?
When sending in your coilovers that have to go in for a rebuild, it is important that you send in only the dampers. Meaning you must remove the uppermount, springs, spring seats, seat locks, and lower bracket before sending the dampers in. This will speed up the rebuild turn-around time and cut down costs on the price. Additionally, when removing your coilover uppermount, please use an impact gun to remove the top nut. Not using an impact wrench and instead using a handtool will cause the shaft to spin and eventually come out. If you would like to send in your coilovers with everything still attatched to it, you may do so for an additional fee of $70.00. This will also insure proper set up and spring pre-load. Please clean the coilovers to the best of your ability. The cleaner the coilover will be easier for our technicians to service your coilovers. Cleaning services are available for an additional charge.

How long does it usually take for a rebuild?
The time that it takes for a rebuild does depend when it comes in but generally takes between 1-2 weeks (minus the shipping transit times). If your vehicle is needed for an event and the coilovers are nessesary, please give enough time (4-5 weeks in advanced) to send in your coilovers. We will do our best to get you the coilovers in time.

When I send my coilovers in for rebuild, can I have it custom valved as well?
The answer is Yes! This will be the perfect opportunity for you to get your coilovers custom vavled by our highly skilled technicians. An additional cost of $100.00 per damper is applied when each corner is being rebuilt. Please contact us directly when requesting a custom valved set up.


PRICING FOR THE REBUILD SERVICES:


- Inverted Monotube Rebuild: $200.00 per damper/corner
- Monotube Rebuild: $150.00 per damper/corner
- Custom Valving: $100.00 per damper/corner (rebuild is additional to this cost)
- Proper Set up, Cleaning, and Service: $70.00 - $140.00 (depending on condition and set up requirements)
- Gas Charge / Increase Gas Charge: $35.00 per damper/corner
- Inspection / Trouble Shoot: Free (customer pays for shipping)

 

perfect, thanks Don!