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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Flow Rates of the Stock Injectors vs the jcw Injectors

Anybody know the flow rates for the stock and the jcw injectors. I'm getting ready to add an Alta Top Mount Intercooler Classic (larger Intercooler) in my 05 MCSC with the goal of getting as close to jcw hp as possible. Should I go with the jcw injectors with the larger Intercooler, or stay stock?
 

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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IIRC they are 340 cc's
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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JCW injectors are 380cc.

Bigger injectors will not be effective unless you get a matching ECU software.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Agreed but my UniChip should be able to handle that...
 
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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If you can get an update from Unichip for the injectors, get it.

On my car, it added smoothness and a bit more power combined with the GIAC software to match.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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The idea behind bigger injectors is of course to be able to put more fuel in the engine when needed. My car would be fine without them but, the goal is to have the injectors not working in the high range all the time. The pulley is really the only thing i've got that makes it need more fuel. With the bigger injectors they are usually working in the median range instead of 90%. This should make them last longer.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mistro
Anybody know the flow rates for the stock and the jcw injectors. I'm getting ready to add an Alta Top Mount Intercooler Classic (larger Intercooler) in my 05 MCSC with the goal of getting as close to jcw hp as possible. Should I go with the jcw injectors with the larger Intercooler, or stay stock?
I'm doing exactly the same thing, big IC and JCW injectors. I already installed the JCW air box, my question is; when I install the injectors and big IC will driving 4 hours to the Cooper dealership to get a JCW ECU burn be a problem?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMM
I'm doing exactly the same thing, big IC and JCW injectors. I already installed the JCW air box, my question is; when I install the injectors and big IC will driving 4 hours to the Cooper dealership to get a JCW ECU burn be a problem?
nope there should be zero problems driving to the dealer
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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jcw 380cc injectors

Originally Posted by mistro
Agreed but my UniChip should be able to handle that...
only if it is tuned on the dyno with your car!!
you need a unichip tuner for that.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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38cc inj

Originally Posted by isellem
nope there should be zero problems driving to the dealer
well not sure if that is true. my ecu learned that i switched the injectors and pulled fuel from the long and short term fuel trims and now the car runs lean in the top end. working on a reflash for the 380cc injectors and hope this solves this issue. so beware.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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injector duty cycle

Originally Posted by bluesmini
The idea behind bigger injectors is of course to be able to put more fuel in the engine when needed. My car would be fine without them but, the goal is to have the injectors not working in the high range all the time. The pulley is really the only thing i've got that makes it need more fuel. With the bigger injectors they are usually working in the median range instead of 90%. This should make them last longer.
wow how are you reading injector duty cycle. this is the only way you can make this comment.what makes you think you are running 90% duty cycle?
they won't wear out quicker just more likely to fail (open or closed).
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JSWMCS
well not sure if that is true. my ecu learned that i switched the injectors and pulled fuel from the long and short term fuel trims and now the car runs lean in the top end. working on a reflash for the 380cc injectors and hope this solves this issue. so beware.
-john
So what am I supposed to do ? The only options are to work on the car in the Chicago dealers parking lot, installing the big IC and injectors Have them install my parts ,charging Chicago and BMW dealer prices Or have the burn done first and drive home and install the stuff.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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I had the JCW ECU flash a couple months ago and still haven't got around to putting in the JCW injectors with no probs, so you can do it that way
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ovrezee
I had the JCW ECU flash a couple months ago and still haven't got around to putting in the JCW injectors with no probs, so you can do it that way
Same here as I can tell...I am running a little lean from the AFR readings from my dyno and I have JCW injectors on the way.
 
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