I heard through a friend, who was talking to Techtonics recently, that there is a new exhaust for the MCS. Techtonics helped flow test the design for this system. It uses 2 mufflers, but they are configured with one right after the cat and then the second near the end. The tip is a 2 tip design, so the original look will be kept. The system is also quiet with a nice tone to it. I am going to call the manufacturer to get more information. Also, I heard that Techtonics dyno'd the Magnaflow and found out that it lessened the HP compared to the stock S exhaust. I thought that this was interesting because I what I read about a 20+ HP for the Magnaflow.

 

Arly, Sounds like they are trying to disuede you from the magnaflow. Lookat all of the dyno testing that has been done to date all over the country with many different systems and you will find taht the magnaflow produces the most power. I just installed my magnaflow last week and I love it! I waited until I saw enough research on as many systems as possible before making my decision. The magnaflow has great sound, excellent quality, easy install, but it is the loudest. Check out http://www.mcsho.org.

Good luck!

 

>>Arly, Sounds like they are trying to disuede you from the magnaflow. Lookat all of the dyno testing that has been done to date all over the country with many different systems and you will find taht the magnaflow produces the most power. I just installed my magnaflow last week and I love it! I waited until I saw enough research on as many systems as possible before making my decision. The magnaflow has great sound, excellent quality, easy install, but it is the loudest. Check out http://www.mcsho.org.
>>
>>Good luck!

how much is magnaflow??

 

>>how much is magnaflow??

$600

 

The Magnaflow creates power plain and simple.


It amazing some of the crap that is out there these days. :smile:

 

>>The Magnaflow creates power plain and simple.
>>
>>
>>It amazing some of the crap that is out there these days. :smile:

do u have the magnaflow, it says u have Borla??? which do u have? does the magnaflow make the car faster, what does it increase the HP to?

 

It makes awesome power!! I have the madness intake and magnaflow on my car and Randy at http://www.mini-motorsport.com has dynoed this set up at around 18.1 HP.

 

Just how "loud" is the magnaflow exhaust?
I have hear different opinions on it.
Anywhere from not much louder than stock.....
to wearing earplugs while driving.

 

I looked at the numbers from MCShp.org. I am still not convinced on the numbers.

I talked to Colin from Techtonics and he told me what he thought about Magnaflow and other systems out there. He was skeptical about the way Magnaflow design their system.

The system that he helped developed addressed noise, power and design basics for bending the tubing. He helped spec'd out a 2.5 inch tube diameter as well as took 3.5 feet out of the stock system. He estimated 10-12 hp increase from stock. He said the sound coming out of the system has a nice growl to it without the driver losing hearing. He said he wished that the systems he made for some of his VW's sounded as good as this one. He will be dynoing the system next week.

Techtonic guys are straight shooters from what I heard from VW people. Some manufacturers do estimates from the wheel and then calculate back to the crank or flywheel. TT makes measurements from the flywheel or crank. That is the numbers that can not vary due to friction and other factors to the front wheel. I am going with this TT system and will let you guys know about the dyno numbers from TT as soon as I get them. Hope this helps. The price is $659 plus shipping.

I can send the flyer that this company send me. How do attach Jpegs to this site?

 

>>Just how "loud" is the magnaflow exhaust?
>>I have hear different opinions on it.
>>Anywhere from not much louder than stock.....
>>to wearing earplugs while driving.

Louder than stock. Somewhat beneath earplugs. Depends who you're asking.
I love it.

 

I have had my magnaflow on for a week, and love it, its louder than stock, and makes serious, very noticable power. I also like the overall finish and warranty that the system comes with, its a no brainer if you want more power or sound, the magnaflow is the way to go.

 

>>I looked at the numbers from MCShp.org. I am still not convinced on the numbers.
>>
>>I talked to Colin from Techtonics and he told me what he thought about Magnaflow and other systems out there. He was skeptical about the way Magnaflow design their system.
>>
>>The system that he helped developed addressed noise, power and design basics for bending the tubing. He helped spec'd out a 2.5 inch tube diameter as well as took 3.5 feet out of the stock system. He estimated 10-12 hp increase from stock. He said the sound coming out of the system has a nice growl to it without the driver losing hearing. He said he wished that the systems he made for some of his VW's sounded as good as this one. He will be dynoing the system next week.
>>
>>Techtonic guys are straight shooters from what I heard from VW people. Some manufacturers do estimates from the wheel and then calculate back to the crank or flywheel. TT makes measurements from the flywheel or crank. That is the numbers that can not vary due to friction and other factors to the front wheel. I am going with this TT system and will let you guys know about the dyno numbers from TT as soon as I get them. Hope this helps. The price is $659 plus shipping.
>>
>>I can send the flyer that this company send me. How do attach Jpegs to this site?

Arly,

Do a search on some of the early posts about the Magnaflow - I was the biggest skeptic based on the flow design (the "T" that slams into the "racetrack&quot.

Magnaflow stepped up and sent several units out to different folks in the industry for testing and evaluation. After dyno runs by more people than I can count, on different dynos around the country, it has been borne out that the Magnaflow makes more power than anything else out there (except for maybe the Supertrapp, which I haven't tested yet).

If the TT system makes 10 hp at the flywheel, it should have some other saving graces - such as quality design, fit and finish, and a nice sound - the price already seems to be on target. That will equate to 8-9 horsepower at the wheel, which other systems are making without a problem (Quicksilver is ~10-12 and the Magnaflow is ~12-15).

I applaud TT for coming to market with MINI products, but until they have checked out all that's out there, they need to tout the qualities of their system, not try to discredit the other ones on the market.

Just my humble opinion.


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Click It!

 

how does the magnaflow compare with the quicksilver from Mini-Madness (love the design)?? also, does this void warranty? is there anywhere i could go to listen to this exhaust? it says on mcshp.org that it adds 18-20 hp.

 

the exhaust wars rage on...& on...& on :smile:

peace,
d

 

>>I looked at the numbers from MCShp.org. I am still not convinced on the numbers.
>>
>>I talked to Colin from Techtonics and he told me what he thought about Magnaflow and other systems out there. He was skeptical about the way Magnaflow design their system.
>>
>>The system that he helped developed addressed noise, power and design basics for bending the tubing. He helped spec'd out a 2.5 inch tube diameter as well as took 3.5 feet out of the stock system. He estimated 10-12 hp increase from stock. He said the sound coming out of the system has a nice growl to it without the driver losing hearing. He said he wished that the systems he made for some of his VW's sounded as good as this one. He will be dynoing the system next week.
>>

>>Techtonic guys are straight shooters from what I heard from VW people. Some manufacturers do estimates from the wheel and then calculate back to the crank or flywheel. TT makes measurements from the flywheel or crank. That is the numbers that can not vary due to friction and other factors to the front wheel. I am going with this TT system and will let you guys know about the dyno numbers from TT as soon as I get them. Hope this helps. The price is $659 plus shipping.
>>
>>I can send the flyer that this company send me. How do attach Jpegs to this
site?


You guys need to understand something about all this. If you go to an exhaust manufacture and ask about another exhaust chances are they are not going to tell you that the exhaust they built is not as good as the competition. Also these folks have not even dyno tested the system. You cant really be pro-Techtonics just by talking to the guy. The numbers are accurate and there are many sources of the same numbers.

Now with that said the Magnaflow did not test out as much as the manufacture claimed and this has been adjusted on the site. If anyone has questions mail me.
Also another great source for what they actually tested at is Randy.

 

>>how does the magnaflow compare with the quicksilver from Mini-Madness (love the design)?? also, does this void warranty? is there anywhere i could go to listen to this exhaust? it says on mcshp.org that it adds 18-20 hp.

I just added the quicksilver data just now so I am not sure where you saw the 18-20hp. maybe you were looking at the packages with the intake and ECU.

Click on the right media colum by quicksilver and there are movies and sound clips.

Cheers

 

How does the QS compare to the Magnaflow?

The QS is lighter by about 14 lbs, makes 3 or 4 hp less, is significantly different in both pitch and volume (higher and quieter), and costs about $200 more.

The Magnaflow has a deeper sound, is much louder (but not too loud in my subjective opinion), and some people (and you know who you are ) have issues with a resonance or drone. It hangs a little better with the brackets on both sides, and the installation is a breeze.

The installation on the QS is easy because of the weight, but the tip alignment is a lot more dependent on precise installation.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Randy

 

I apologize for raising some tempers. I was just skeptical about the numbers that Magnaflow posted. I am just learning alot from reading what you and other say. I am very excited that we all love what we have. This car is fun and a great conversation piece. I am still waiting for Colin's Dyno results. My exhaust is due in this Friday. I am planning on installing this. I might do a g-tech reading on the stock and then the NRP(TT)design. Thanks for the information. :smile:

 

>>the exhaust wars rage on...& on...& on :smile:
>>
>>peace,
>>d

I'm glad you got your hearing back

 

>>I apologize for raising some tempers. I was just skeptical about the numbers that Magnaflow posted. I am just learning alot from reading what you and other say. I am very excited that we all love what we have. This car is fun and a great conversation piece. I am still waiting for Colin's Dyno results. My exhaust is due in this Friday. I am planning on installing this. I might do a g-tech reading on the stock and then the NRP(TT)design. Thanks for the information. :smile:



I am sure no tempers were raised. There just comes a time when there is so much non bias data published out there on a certain subject (i.e Magnaflow) that all the "talk" becomes fact.

You should see some of my initial posts on the Magnaflow before all the independent non bias testing was done...I was quite a skeptic. :smile:

 

i'm still going to get the magnaflow
Randy says it's calling my name

 

For info and pics of this new exhaust system, please see:

http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...475#post302548

Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to post the pics here but was able to do so on MINI2.com

 

For those of you purchasing the Magnaflow....
You'll be real glad that you did, the fit and finish
is above reproach and the sound, well...If you
like the sound of power - then you'll love it! [img]null[/img]

 

>>For info and pics of this new exhaust system, please see:
>>
>>http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthrea...475#post302548
>>
>>Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to post the pics here but was able to do so on MINI2.com


BC28,

It looks like a pretty nice design, but does it rub against the battery box? It obviously won't allow the use of the stock battery box skid plate, eh?

Randy

 

>>BC28,
>>
>>It looks like a pretty nice design, but does it rub against the battery box? It obviously won't allow the use of the stock battery box skid plate, eh?
>>
>>Randy

Randy: I talked to the guy at NRP and asked him about the battery box clearance- he told me that it does not rub against it and that there is enough clearance. The angle of the pics aren't that great and it makes it seem like its touching. He told me that the skid plate will need some very minor trimming. He also mentioned that there were no resonance issues or droning with it.

There are so many different systems with different designs out there that I can't decide what I want to get.

By the way, I got the sway bar in the mail the other day- it looks great- Thanks! Unfortunately, I will probably be digging out my MINI instead of installing it as we expect another snowstorm in my area.

-Bryan