Here is a link to the vendor announcement.

This bar is absolutely alone in the marketplace. We pulled out all the stops, and the production version will be even more beautiful and functional.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!
Randy

 

BMINI told me you were out at the track earlier today and I was hoping there would be a report tonight.

 

I have some questions. Call or PM please. Your PM box is full.

Thanks Larry

 

Yeah, I leave the NAM box full - one less place to check. I knw Brian stays on top of his PMs. I use email and the Webb Motorsports forum PMs.

We always answer the phone too!

I'll call you tomorrow.

Randy

 

You haven't answered my email Randy! jk take your time I have until next october... by then though I will be waiting on your doorstep wanting to mod my car!

Chili aka "MIKEY"

 

Yeah, mine do get full a lot! Bridget and Brian can help too though. They are manning the phones and email.

I've been tuning Unichips on the dyno, setting up a turbo Elise, and track testing a couple of new product designs as well as coordinating production runs for swaybars and exhausts all the while scheduling four upcoming pulley parties. I'm also developing the dealer and warranty support network. That's all just this week! Because of that, messages specifically for me can sometimes take a bit to get response to. I DO CARE THOUGH! In the meantime, try out Brian or Bridget.

I always get back, it just takes a while sometimes. That is no longer true of the business though - you can get through to someone.

Hope that helps!
Randy

PS - I'm here responding to posts too :smile:

 

It's okay randy we're here for you!
And your hear for us!
JK... JK... JK... I hear you are a very busy and important man, that's in my opinion a heck of alot better than a guy who sits and answers email all day and doesn't give a crap about the products he sells and develops.

Keep up the good work!

Chili

 

How stable is the Slider Adjuster VS the Hsport Comp bar drilled holes?

What are the advantages of this bar over others? (not including the slider adj.)

It sure is pretty =)

 

Randy you're killing me............the next two mods I have planned on getting exhaust and sway bar. Just when I figured out what I was going to get..........you went ahead and got me thinking again......

 

The weight is less
The ends are splined for adjustable preload
The droplinks are sturdier and remove any play
The mount is much sturdier and does not require lubrication
The install is easier - it doesn't require lowering the sub-frame if you are willing to hack one end off of the stock bar
The bending moment is different giving a more linear feel to the transition fomr understeer to oversteer

We did quite a bit of testing to be sure this design will not cause movement issues (as has been seen on other bars with sliders). The production version will be guaranteed not to move. We also may add lineation for making adjustments.

Hope that helps!
Randy

 

Thanks for the info!

I just can't seem to trust the slider for long term use, would you offer a drilled version in the future?

 

The slider is provided for the ability to fine tune. It gives YOU the option of selecting your own droplink points, rather than having 2 or 3 pre-set positions. As for the stability of the slider, I adjusted it twice at the track today, and it stuck like a fly on fly paper, even through constant flogging. The same sort of set-up has been used on Porsche race cars for years, and it seems to work for them.
Also, the system weighs 7lbs, and is as strong if not stronger than any other bar out there. O, and its anodized red, so that’s like 5hp right there!

-Brian

 

Exactly as you say, Used on race cars! Race cars run 1 race and everything is retested to work and if anything is wrong it get replaced, I'm concerned about long term investment with the bar...

 

Like I said, I will guarantee that they will not slide.

The same design has been in use on street cars of the Porsche variety for literally hundreds o fthousands of miles, and they do not move. The Porsche Motorsports team also uses simlar units - they would certainly move during "one race" if it is a 24 hour event!

Hope that helps!
Randy

 

Randy,

I used a sliding type clamp attachment on a different sway bar for nearly 200,000 miles - 3,000 or so on the track. It never, ever moved.

Michael

 

Randy

Do you know the difference in weight as compared to the H-sport on my car now. I don't think it would be a lot if any. I could be wrong. How about a comparison between H-sport and yours or Alta droplinks and the new bar with links. Product looks awesome and very functional. Thanks Larry. Keep up the great product developement. It's great to see new products and not just a rehash of the same things made by another company.

 

Thanks Larry. I appreciate that - we are working very hard to come up with our own unique products by our own in house design and then test it here on the track with our own test cars.


The prototype is 7 pounds, compared to 8 for the H-Sport. The droplinks are beefy, more so than any other brand. They also use very high quality heims, and include a central hole for adjustment.

It is very hard to describe, but with this bar, the input from the car is much more predictable, even when dialed in for oversteer. I use the word linear, because it is very much accurate with the feedback you get. You can make the car understeer, neutral, or oversteer by adjusting the slider, but in every case, you know what the car is going to do before it happens.

Hope that helps!
Randy

 

A lot of swaybar manufacturers post % stiffness #'s ... What will your Bar range in?

 

It will be from 0% to about 320% stiffer, but that will be tweaked a bit on the prototype. At full stiff, you can apply power and still drift through the apex. At full soft, it acts as it does with the stock bar (the moment arm is farther from the pivot than the stock, so even though the bar is stiffer, its effectiveness is similar).
Hope that helps!
Randy

 

Now you have my full interest

 

Randy

Do you think you'll have one when you come to town in 10 days. Thanks Larry

 

Randy

I'm planning on getting H-sport springs some time next week. I was also going to do the H-sport rear comp bar but after seeing this thread I think I might hold off on getting the H-sport bar until yours is in production and there is more feedback on it. Then I will be able to decide. I just had a quick question. I'm still new to all this and I'm trying to learn as much as possible but do you think your bar is overkill for me? What I mean by this is that will someone like me(someone who doesn't know a lot about cars) even be able to tell a differance between the WMS bar and the H-sport bar? Also how easy will it be to adjust? Thanks!:smile:

 

Look at some camber plates sometime. Two slotted sliders, only WAY more load than a sway bar will EVER see, and they hold fine as long as they were properly torqued.

 

What kind of warranty will be issued with the product?

 

Our full 2 year 24,000 mile warranty.

I don't think this bar is overkill for street drivers - it can be adjusted to be the same effective rate as stock.

It is very easy to adjust - we did several times on the fly at the track.

Larry - I don't know. Probably not. It will most likely take 3 weeks for production.

Hope that helps!
Randy