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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 10:00 AM
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Foxwell NT710

After a long transit time the unit arrived and here’s my first thoughts and quick review

: Build Quality :

- Overall the unit is very solid and easy to hold
- Love the rubber handle grips on the ends
- Display is bright and text is easy to read

: Travel/Protective Case :

- Firm material w/nice texture and easy to grip handle
- Has storage for manual, cables and and power adapter (adapter sold separately)
- Has enough room inside to house my KIES Wi-Fi adapter
* Was happy that it did not come in the large hard plastic casing like older models

: Software :

- Android based OS and straightforward
- Foxwell’s software was simple to navigate through and they made updates easy to perform
- Registration took under two minutes

: Wi-Fi :

- Does not support the latest Wi-Fi standards
- The first download and install of the BMW/MINI software took less than ten minutes

: Battery and Charging :

- Device went from 100% battery to 95% during setup/registration and software downloads/updates
* Bluetooth was turned on and display brightness was at 90%
* Have not connected to MINI at this time for real world usage

- When device arrived it was at 89% battery
​​​​​​- Connected to 12W USB C adapter and it charged to 100% in about 25 minutes
* Will have to test more with lower battery level

Overall I’m satisfied with the purchase and it’s at a good price point. I could easily see this device being well over $300

With this and the KIES adapter w/BimmerCode I feel that my diagnostic/coding setup is complete.

@cjv2 couldn’t be more happier about this and to be able to monitor the MINI from time to time is well worth it.

@bagwell hopefully yours arrives soon and you like it.

@TVPostSound maybe it’s worth the upgrade to you if there’s a future discount?…

@Stu-mon I know on the last thread you didn’t know what the device was so I will post some pictures if you didn’t research it already.

-Rich

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Old Dec 27, 2022 | 07:27 PM
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I received mine too; charged it, registered and downloaded BMW/MINI software.... same impressions as you.

Have not hooked it up to the car yet.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 09:08 AM
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@bagwell glad to hear

I still haven’t connected yet however I’m planning on doing it this weekend to make sure all is well with the MINI.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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@bagwell glad to hear

I still haven’t connected yet however I’m planning on doing it this weekend to make sure all is well with the MINI.
You've had it a week? But haven't hooked it up yet?

I bought the NT710 myself, arrived in 2 days, they transferred the Toyotal/Lexus software over Chat.
Checked both MINI and Lexus with it!!

Going to to a brake flush using the ABS function after New Year.


 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 10:22 AM
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@TVPostSound I’m glad to hear you made the purchase and received it quickly

The weather in NY is finally starting to get a little warmer that’s why I waited so long

Also going to purchase the Honda software for my wife’s HR-V
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 12:52 PM
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I did discover one important item with the NT701 and NT530!!
The last 5 fill-ups fuel quality grade function showed me that the Shell station I use, sells me medium grade fuel when I pay for "super"
And Costco DOES sell the high grade as stated.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
I did discover one important item with the NT701 and NT530!!
The last 5 fill-ups fuel quality grade function showed me that the Shell station I use, sells me medium grade fuel when I pay for "super"
And Costco DOES sell the high grade as stated.
Where on earth did you find this in the UI?!?!? Do tell!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2022 | 01:57 PM
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Where on earth did you find this in the UI?!?!? Do tell!
God, dont ask me, I stumbled onto it. Theres so much there!!
I found it while looking for the I/M readiness.
If I find it, Ill try to jot down the path.

This has the same functions a the NT530, its just laid out so differently.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2022 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
God, dont ask me, I stumbled onto it. Theres so much there!!
I found it while looking for the I/M readiness.
If I find it, Ill try to jot down the path.

This has the same functions a the NT530, its just laid out so differently.
Found it

It’s under Service —> Power train —> Engine electronics —> Fuel grade

And apparently the prior owner had the hots for not-premium gas, 58% of their fill-ups were medium grade or lower, including 17 fill-ups with good old regular. Well, at least I know… hey maybe they were using your Shell station
 
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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 12:54 PM
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: Update :

With the warmer weather today I scanned the MINI. The NT710 is fast and the one downside at this time is battery.
- Began with 100% and within 20-25 minutes it was at 85%
- Screen brightness was a little less than 50%

I'm very happy with the purchase and impressed with this tool, I'm sure the battery life will improve and its probably related to optimizations within Android OS.

What did I find...
- Six fault codes throughout the BDC, DME and HU-B
- Five of the fault codes were related to modules that were effected by battery voltage (my fault due to not driving in the cold and bad weather)

The one fault I found intriguing was D90D16 Light operating unit (BEL), (LIN): Wrong variant installed
- I replaced the light control element with MINI's OEM rear fog light version and coded via BimmerCode (to enable rear fog lights)
- After finding information on a BMW forum turns out E-SYS is needed to code/pair the new element to the BDC than the fault will be removed
- Not going to worry about this fault because the switch and lights function, also I don't know a thing about E-SYS

With that said codes were cleared and did not come back except D90D16

Checked the fuel grade and happy to report I'm getting Shell's V-Power NiTRO+ (91 Octane)

More to come and hope everyone is having a good new year -Rich
 

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Old Jan 4, 2023 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RichsMINI
: Update :
The one fault I found intriguing was D90D16 Light operating unit (BEL), (LIN): Wrong variant installed
- I replaced the light control element with MINI's OEM rear fog light version and coded via BimmerCode (to enable rear fog lights)
- After finding information on a BMW forum turns out E-SYS is needed to code/pair the new element to the BDC than the fault will be removed
- Not going to worry about this fault because the switch and lights function, also I don't know a thing about E-SYS
I get the same.

Funny thing, I had the car at the dealer years ago. They said I needed to have the DME recoded per bulletins.
Got a call saying that coding kept failing due to a bad light switch!!! They would have to order a new one.
I remembered I replaced it with a rear fog capable switch, and coded.
If they did this without telling me, I would need to buy a rear fog capable switch again!!
I ran down there and reinstalled the original non fog switch, and coding proceeded.

So I keep the original headlight switch in my glovebox to reinstall before driving up the dealers driveway.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
I get the same.

Funny thing, I had the car at the dealer years ago. They said I needed to have the DME recoded per bulletins.
Got a call saying that coding kept failing due to a bad light switch!!! They would have to order a new one.
I remembered I replaced it with a rear fog capable switch, and coded.
If they did this without telling me, I would need to buy a rear fog capable switch again!!
I ran down there and reinstalled the original non fog switch, and coding proceeded.

So I keep the original headlight switch in my glovebox to reinstall before driving up the dealers driveway.
@TVPostSound odd, I wonder if that MINI’s service department noticed the different light control module and didn’t want to take a chance with the reprogramming

Only mention this because I had the DME updated for a bulletin last year too with the rear fog light module and the NM Engineering power module installed with no problems at all.

At the time I asked my Service Advisor if I should install the original light module and remove the power module and was told it shouldn’t be a problem.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RichsMINI
@TVPostSound odd, I wonder if that MINI’s service department noticed the different light control module and didn’t want to take a chance with the reprogramming

Only mention this because I had the DME updated for a bulletin last year too with the rear fog light module and the NM Engineering power module installed with no problems at all.

At the time I asked my Service Advisor if I should install the original light module and remove the power module and was told it shouldn’t be a problem.
They stated the coding failed due to the light switch.
Once I went in and replaced it with the original, the coding finished successfully.
Albeit I lost all my custom settings that were done by a coder using ISTA!! But I found and used Bimmercode to restore.
And good thing the coder added a VO for the SiriusXM otherwise the dealer coding would have wiped it. (remember that kids!!)

The light switch was AFTER the coder, so VO wasn't written. Only Bimmercode
That would have been (5AA) to the VO
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
They stated the coding failed due to the light switch.
Once I went in and replaced it with the original, the coding finished successfully.
Albeit I lost all my custom settings that were done by a coder using ISTA!! But I found and used Bimmercode to restore.
And good thing the coder added a VO for the SiriusXM otherwise the dealer coding would have wiped it. (remember that kids!!)

The light switch was AFTER the coder, so VO wasn't written. Only Bimmercode
That would have been (5AA) to the VO
Ah, that makes sense.

It would be a nice feature to have in the NT710 if you could register the replacement module to the VO
 
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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RichsMINI
Ah, that makes sense.

It would be a nice feature to have in the NT710 if you could register the replacement module to the VO
It would be a nicer feature if Stephan at Bimmercode could code VO!!
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 04:35 AM
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you guys are way over my head, but I can dig it. really got my OCD goin ! don't mess with my Sirius ! ah ha ha ha !
 

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Originally Posted by cjv2
Found it

It’s under Service —> Power train —> Engine electronics —> Fuel grade

And apparently the prior owner had the hots for not-premium gas, 58% of their fill-ups were medium grade or lower, including 17 fill-ups with good old regular. Well, at least I know… hey maybe they were using your Shell station
Bit off topic, but is this a parameter that could be accessed with BimmerLink?? Would be curious if my F54 has the same info?? I will look into BimmerLink, but figured I might ask.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatV8
Bit off topic, but is this a parameter that could be accessed with BimmerLink?? Would be curious if my F54 has the same info?? I will look into BimmerLink, but figured I might ask.
Haven't found it in BimmerLink. Might be buried in there somewhere, the stack of stats is long, but haven't found it.
 
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Has anyone seen a spot in the NT710 to put the parking brake in service mode? I can't find it. And when I tell Bimmerlink to do it, it says it failed to do so.

(related: are we sure that there is a way to do that on the F56S at all electronically? I was checking out official BMW instructions for replacing the rear pads and strangely there is nothing in there about this... that I was able to find, anyway. Manual piston turning with a tool, yes, electronic, no.)
 
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You don’t have electronic parking brake.

Yes, you turn the pistons in.
 
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
You don’t have electronic parking brake.

Yes, you turn the pistons in.
Yeah I don't know where my head is at, I think I did WAY too much reading about not-MINI BMWs with the electronic setup. D'oh!

But I had an appropriate piston-turning tool at the ready as you reference, planned ahead. Got 'er done
 
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So the NT710 came in handy last night -- did an ATF drain (partial, you can't get all of it out, but still) and following manufacturer procedures called for getting some particular ATF temperature readings. NT710 delivered

Also came in handy for reinitializing the sunroof (I had to pull the switch assembly, the blah blah is in another thread).
 
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