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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 07:02 PM
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I pulled the trigger and went ahead and got my F56 tuned. Chris and crew here in Raleigh at G3 did it for me. He did my R60 last year and I was super pleased.

Let me just say the Manic tune on the F56S is beyond manic, it's ludicrous! The torque is insane. It will break traction control in second gear, and if you keep going it will break the tires free.

My car was the second F56 they did. When I picked it up, they warned me that the first person that got it done told them it was "too much". I borderline agree, it's crazy. They even went a little more conservative on mine vs the first one.

For anyone that's familiar with Manic tunes on the second gen cars with the third gen cars there is now SPS Switch. There is only one map, so it's go hard or go home. I'm still getting used to these new power levels, but I'm grinning like an idiot and loving it the whole time.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 07:18 PM
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Outstanding! I'm glad to hear that Manic has come out with a tune for the F56 and you couldn't find a better place to have it done than Chris and G3. I'm just waiting for my warranty to run out before getting the tune.
Did you upgrade the intercooler and go with a de-cat DP?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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Any idea why they aren't doing the switch ?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 04:45 AM
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@vetsvette, aside from a K&N panel filter my car is stock. I've a lot of things on my wish list starting with an exhaust but after the tune I'm kinda broke lol

@minnie, I don't have an official answer, but it has something to do with the ECU configurations from what my tuner told me. For this flash they have to bench flash it, I wouldn't be surprised if in the future they figure out how to do it through the OBD2. A switch would be really nice to be able to dial it down. The one map system effects all the driving modes. I told my wife is she ever drives it to put in Eco since its like driving in the old Mild setting lol
 
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Old Mar 5, 2017 | 06:14 AM
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Thanks. I know on the R56 to get a stage 2 tune you needed I/C, DP, CAI, exhaust, and colder plugs. I've got everything except the DP and plugs and am waiting for the tune to do those. Hopefully by then they will have the switch available for the F56. Maybe I'll see you at Flow or a club function. I would like to compare it first hand to my JCW Tune + NM Module.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 01:48 PM
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Any idea on how much boost you run?
Is your car stock?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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Seeing about 23psi of boost, car is stock aside from K&N panel filter
 

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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 07:25 PM
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Wow 23psi?
Stock is like 8-9.
With the JB4 I'm around 13psi.
Just a normal Cooper S or JCW?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 07:52 PM
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Cooper S. The boost is impressive but I feel like they tuned the Vanos system as well. The torque is instant. With my Dinan I was getting 14, a nice increase over stock, but this Manic tune is a whole new monster
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 08:05 PM
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dyno plots please.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Awesome. Can u post logs?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by devilmotorsports
Seeing about 23psi of boost, car is stock aside from K&N panel filter
Nice! So I'm assuming if you had other mods they could dial in more power? Not necessarily more boost, but more timing etc.?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2017 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by devilmotorsports
Seeing about 23psi of boost, car is stock aside from K&N panel filter
23 psi is most likely momentary boost spike. Do you have any way to log sustained boost level? I seriously doubt a sustained 23 psi is within the compressor's efficient range and probably not the best long term boost level for the engine.
A log and dyno sheet would be very helpful for all of us interested in getting a flash in the near future.
It's good to see several flash options available for the F56!
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BadakVT
23 psi is most likely momentary boost spike. Do you have any way to log sustained boost level? I seriously doubt a sustained 23 psi is within the compressor's efficient range and probably not the best long term boost level for the engine.
A log and dyno sheet would be very helpful for all of us interested in getting a flash in the near future.
It's good to see several flash options available for the F56!
should have a dyno...i can't imagine manic putting a tune out and not providing a tune. what were your afr's?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 06:44 AM
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23 psi is peak, in 6th at highway speeds the turbo holds at around 20 psi on a long pull. I'm still adjusting to the increased power so more focused on driving and how the car responds vs data logging, but I can log some info for you guys in the near future.

I wasn't given a dyno sheet with my car. I'm asking my tuner if he did one or not. If not I'd love to get it dyno'd if you all pitch in to help pay for it lol
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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I get 20-23 psi on my JB4 map 6 custom. Car is on stage 2 with intake, dp and full 3" exhaust.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by leozip
I get 20-23 psi on my JB4 map 6 custom. Car is on stage 2 with intake, dp and full 3" exhaust.
How did you get a map 6? who's your tuner or is that from BMS?
 
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Map 6 sounds interesting
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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I would think it would be in Manic's best interest to almost ~require~ some of the first tuned F56s to get a dyno tune with testing so they would have marketing material to pass on to the masses to show all the gains the car got and they we could compare those gains to other tuning options.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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I heard back from my tuner, he did not dyno my car but he did dyno the first one he did and sent me sheet (attached). The car had an upgraded intercooler and the JCW software upgrade, which was then overwritten with the Manic Stage One software.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 07:04 PM
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257WHP? I vaguely recall seeing people with piggyback and exhaust getting more than that. I guess Dyno variation makes it hard to compare them though. A stock vs tune comparison would probably help. Do I spy a raised redline?

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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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A baseline vs tuned dyno sheets would be the best to see real gains.

I've got dyno sheets for mine with JB4 on Stock, Map1, and map2 on Dynolog dyno (retarder dyno similar to mustang).
We ought to start a separate dyno comparison thread and not clutter this Manic thread.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 03:34 AM
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I agree, I myself would of been interested to see the gains in a stock over tuned map. I was a little disappointed that there wasn't as much lift in the horse power but look at the increase in torque! Trust me, if you drive it, you won't be thinking about horse power lol

My R60 All4 with Stage One Manic tune and some other modifications didn't pull this hard. Even my modified to hell and back Rx7, didn't pull this hard, but thats not super fair as rotary's suck at low end torque.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 06:03 AM
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I'm at 276whp right now with JB4 Map 6 custom, K&N Inbox, catless 3" full exhaust
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by leozip
I'm at 276whp right now with JB4 Map 6 custom, K&N Inbox, catless 3" full exhaust
When an F56 Dyno thread is started, please post your dyno sheet. Thanks.
 
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