R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+) MINI Cooper and Cooper S (R56) hatchback discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

R56 Let's talk about oil's!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 10:22 AM
  #1  
BigBoost's Avatar
BigBoost
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 583
Likes: 30
From: Eau Claire WI
Let's talk about oil's!!!

So let's talk about oil's...
what brand and wight and why did you decide to run it!!
give us all the dirt why.
i know mini say's to run 5w30
but it's Saturday and it's -18 out in Wisconsin and Netflix's is getting lame.
so let's talk about it.
 

Last edited by BigBoost; Jan 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM. Reason: error
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 11:39 AM
  #2  
tylewis's Avatar
tylewis
3rd Gear
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 161
Likes: 0
I mean, I run Royal Purple 5w30. I really don't think it matters all that much to be honest. I like Royal Purple because I have always had success with it. It was what I was recommended and all of my vehicles have run very smoothly.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 07:10 PM
  #3  
I_drive_slow's Avatar
I_drive_slow
2nd Gear
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 85
Likes: 1
I've heard people say that if you change every 5k miles you can run pretty much anything. I myself run the MINI brand oil...because, surprisingly, it's the cheapest synthetic I can get.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 07:35 PM
  #4  
renchjeep's Avatar
renchjeep
6th Gear
iTrader: (4)
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 46
From: Aguanga, CA
I have been running Mobil1 0w40 European Formula since buying my 2011 MCS hatch used at 22k, now at about 52k. Changed every 5k, with MINI genuine filters, by myself, most times on jackstands at home. Lots of folks here and on other MINI forums were recommending that oil, and I must say, so far, so good. Less than a quart used between changes. I buy the oil at WalMart. Cheap. IIRC, about $23.00 for the 5-quart jug. The OEM filters can be had in quantity on Ebay for about 11.00 each, and include a new crush washer for the drain plug.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 08:46 PM
  #5  
4ringcircus's Avatar
4ringcircus
1st Gear
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Southeastern, PA USA
Originally Posted by renchjeep
I have been running Mobil1 0w40 European Formula...
Same here, I use it in my Audi and I just bought another jug for Mom's 'new-to-her' Mini. Wally also sells Castrol Edge 0w40 which I'll use if M1 is sold out, but I usually try to stay with the Mobil.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 08:57 PM
  #6  
sub3622's Avatar
sub3622
4th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 355
Likes: 9
Used Motul full synthetic 5w-40 because of the warm weather but didnt like it and change to liquid moly 5w-40 full synthetic and the car runs smother even at cold start.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2016 | 09:01 PM
  #7  
SpuuDy's Avatar
SpuuDy
2nd Gear
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 150
Likes: 1
Mini of STL told me to run penzoil 5w-30 full synthetic. So that's what I run. My local autozone was offering 5 quarts of oil and a free oil filter for 32 bucks. Now what I'm wondering is if after adding so much oil if you can just change the oil filter and it be like an oil change.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2016 | 06:47 AM
  #8  
mini4mo's Avatar
mini4mo
4th Gear
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 301
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by renchjeep
I have been running Mobil1 0w40 European Formula since buying my 2011 MCS hatch used at 22k, now at about 52k. Changed every 5k, with MINI genuine filters, by myself, most times on jackstands at home. Lots of folks here and on other MINI forums were recommending that oil, and I must say, so far, so good. Less than a quart used between changes. I buy the oil at WalMart. Cheap. IIRC, about $23.00 for the 5-quart jug. The OEM filters can be had in quantity on Ebay for about 11.00 each, and include a new crush washer for the drain plug.
I'm doing the same thing.
The Mobil one is easy to get at Wally World and I just bought 5 genuine filters for 53 bucks on Ebay.
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2016 | 07:21 AM
  #9  
4ringcircus's Avatar
4ringcircus
1st Gear
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Southeastern, PA USA
(semi-OT) Are OE oil filters considered to be the choice or is there a high quality aftermarket alternative? Reason being, I purchased Mann filters for Mom's car because they've always served me well in my VWs, Audis, and Volvos. But I can see there are clearly some design differences in the Mann oil filter when compared to OE. Has anyone else used Mann OFs here? If so, any issues?

(Back on-topic) Probably 'old news' but....http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Everything you wanted to know about motor oil...and then some.
 
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2016 | 03:52 PM
  #10  
bcriverjunky's Avatar
bcriverjunky
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 327
Likes: 12
From: Bay City, Michigan
I'm in the Mobil1 0w40 European Formula from WalMart club. Change every 5000
 
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2016 | 04:38 PM
  #11  
enoe01's Avatar
enoe01
2nd Gear
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Naples Florida
I have run Mann filters through my last three oil changes and no issues. I am not sure if K&N filters make any difference, but I Change my Mini's oil every 3,000 with Full Synth right now. I am trying to flush out any and all contaminants in the engine and it seems to be working better and better each time. My oil went form being black at 3000 miles to getting lighter each time!


Erik


Originally Posted by 4ringcircus
(semi-OT) Are OE oil filters considered to be the choice or is there a high quality aftermarket alternative? Reason being, I purchased Mann filters for Mom's car because they've always served me well in my VWs, Audis, and Volvos. But I can see there are clearly some design differences in the Mann oil filter when compared to OE. Has anyone else used Mann OFs here? If so, any issues?

(Back on-topic) Probably 'old news' but....http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Everything you wanted to know about motor oil...and then some.
 
Reply
Old Jul 4, 2017 | 09:00 AM
  #12  
seandallen's Avatar
seandallen
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 155
Likes: 39
From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Originally Posted by 4ringcircus
(semi-OT) Are OE oil filters considered to be the choice or is there a high quality aftermarket alternative? Reason being, I purchased Mann filters for Mom's car because they've always served me well in my VWs, Audis, and Volvos. But I can see there are clearly some design differences in the Mann oil filter when compared to OE. Has anyone else used Mann OFs here? If so, any issues?

(Back on-topic) Probably 'old news' but....http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Everything you wanted to know about motor oil...and then some.
Purflux makes the OEM filter. Their stock# is L358A. You can usually find them cheaper than the MINI branded one.

I use Castrol 0W-40 European formula. Mobil1 doesn't have the BMW LL-01 designation.
 
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:08 PM
  #13  
I like mini clubman's's Avatar
I like mini clubman's
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 366
Likes: 57
Old thread but a good one. Its winter again and time to ponder things lol.
I use amsoil Z-ROD in all my vehicles. 05 ram, 04 sebring, 09 mini, 77 colony park and 64 Cadillac. You can't run a new formula oil in a flat tappet cammed car and have the camshaft survive. A local engine builder won't use anything less than a high zinc oil when running an engine on the dyno. As far as I'm concerned our timing chains are similar to a flat tappet cams and the low zinc oil allows it to wear out quicker. But again talking about oil is like taking about politics.
 
Reply
Old Jan 24, 2019 | 04:51 PM
  #14  
bcriverjunky's Avatar
bcriverjunky
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 327
Likes: 12
From: Bay City, Michigan
Originally Posted by bcriverjunky
I'm in the Mobil1 0w40 European Formula from WalMart club. Change every 5000
I have switched to Castrol 0W-40 European formula.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2019 | 02:00 AM
  #15  
f_p's Avatar
f_p
2nd Gear
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 52
Likes: 1
Big story.
For the first 60,000km, I used the MINI spec Castrol oil (5w30). Change every 5-7,000km.
Then I jumped to the Castrol 10W60 and got rid of them in 2000km, as I had the impresion that the engine was having a hard time in morning starts.
Now, I am using the Liqui Moly Top tec 4100 10W-40, with LL04 specification (same as the one used by MINI). Super happy with that, oil consumption droped to 200-300ml per 1,000km.
 

Last edited by f_p; Jan 25, 2019 at 02:05 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 10:03 AM
  #16  
tow hook's Avatar
tow hook
2nd Gear
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 66
Likes: 1
I use Castrol full syn. (5w20 as per the oil cap) switching over to mobil 0 w 40. car smokes a lot the 0w40 should help I hope.
 
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 06:15 PM
  #17  
MrGrumpy's Avatar
MrGrumpy
6th Gear
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 246
From: Washington state
On the recommendation of a Mini specialty shop in the area, I use Liquid Moly Leichtlauf 5w-40. They said it’s the best and are a lot smarter than I am. It seems to make the car very happy, runs nice and quiet. Quieter than the Royal Purple I used to use.
 
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 06:21 PM
  #18  
MrGrumpy's Avatar
MrGrumpy
6th Gear
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 246
From: Washington state
Originally Posted by I like mini clubman's
Old thread but a good one. Its winter again and time to ponder things lol.
I use amsoil Z-ROD in all my vehicles. 05 ram, 04 sebring, 09 mini, 77 colony park and 64 Cadillac. You can't run a new formula oil in a flat tappet cammed car and have the camshaft survive. A local engine builder won't use anything less than a high zinc oil when running an engine on the dyno. As far as I'm concerned our timing chains are similar to a flat tappet cams and the low zinc oil allows it to wear out quicker. But again talking about oil is like taking about politics.
That’s funny, I was just in a conversation about oil with guy I know, and he said that zinc added to oil will cause the chain to wear out faster, which is why he won’t use Liquid Moly, because it has zinc added. But you are saying the opposite. Being that the oil was recommended by a mini specialist, I use it anyway, but now I need the real deal on which one is correct? I’m more inclined to side with what you are saying, but now I just have to find out..... guess it’s time to do the google!
 
Reply
Old Jan 31, 2019 | 06:44 PM
  #19  
MrGrumpy's Avatar
MrGrumpy
6th Gear
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 246
From: Washington state
Wow, lots of info out there..... while I did find something about the zinc additive contributing to premature timing chain wear, it was an article about VW TDI engines. The rest of what I read was pretty much in agreement with what “I Like Mini Clubmans” wrote above. After reading a few, I would agree that our engines compare more closely with the flat tappet engines as opposed to the roller type camshaft engine. The consensus seemed to be that zinc is good in flat tappet and high performance or built engines, and the most important time to have increased zinc in a modern engine is during break-in, but still good to use for its life in the form of higher zinc oils like liquid moly and such. Very interesting reading, I’m going back in for more!
 
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2019 | 06:34 AM
  #20  
seandallen's Avatar
seandallen
3rd Gear
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 155
Likes: 39
From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Originally Posted by MrGrumpy
On the recommendation of a Mini specialty shop in the area, I use Liquid Moly Leichtlauf 5w-40. They said it’s the best and are a lot smarter than I am. It seems to make the car very happy, runs nice and quiet. Quieter than the Royal Purple I used to use.
+1. #MeToo
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2019 | 11:26 AM
  #21  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,724
Likes: 2,537
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
I am running the Liqui moly also on both MINIs.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2019 | 11:48 AM
  #22  
I like mini clubman's's Avatar
I like mini clubman's
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 366
Likes: 57
I must had a weak moment, most of the time I won't post what brand of oil I use. I'll give a type of oil just not the brand. Manufacturers are usually pushing an oil for a reason, mostly to make money. Oil is oil is oil, the additive packages are what the difference is between them. Certain additive play havoc with and engines sensors and emmisions equipment. Manufacturers have to warrenty that stuff almost forever. They also want the most miles per gallon possible. You can't get that with a high tension or thick oil. I only use oil with a very high zinc content for all my vehicles. I also tailor the viscosity to the ambient temperature for the period following the oil change. I do all my own work.

as a side note I was testing oil pumps for a 496 ci Chevy. Certain oils could not be pumped cold or hot as it took more horse power than my drill press could put out at the lowest speed setting.
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2019 | 12:05 PM
  #23  
BigBoost's Avatar
BigBoost
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 583
Likes: 30
From: Eau Claire WI
After install of
oil filter relocation
&
oil cooler
thinkinh about switching over to molly or royal purple
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2019 | 03:58 PM
  #24  
I like mini clubman's's Avatar
I like mini clubman's
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 366
Likes: 57
Looking at your oil cooler engine adapter with four ports. Are the two forward facing ports for oil cooling? if yes, which one is out and what one is in? The reason i ask is that i bought an oil cooler adapter used and i don't know what side is hot and cold for the inline mechanical thermostat/
 
Reply
Old Feb 7, 2019 | 05:26 PM
  #25  
BigBoost's Avatar
BigBoost
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 583
Likes: 30
From: Eau Claire WI
blue/green lines into remote filter houseing
Yellow oil drain from turbo
black coolant
red n18 oil pressure switch

 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:37 PM.