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BigBoost Jan 16, 2016 10:22 AM

Let's talk about oil's!!!
 
So let's talk about oil's...
what brand and wight and why did you decide to run it!!
give us all the dirt why.
i know mini say's to run 5w30
but it's Saturday and it's -18 out in Wisconsin and Netflix's is getting lame.
so let's talk about it.

tylewis Jan 16, 2016 11:39 AM

I mean, I run Royal Purple 5w30. I really don't think it matters all that much to be honest. I like Royal Purple because I have always had success with it. It was what I was recommended and all of my vehicles have run very smoothly.

I_drive_slow Jan 16, 2016 07:10 PM

I've heard people say that if you change every 5k miles you can run pretty much anything. I myself run the MINI brand oil...because, surprisingly, it's the cheapest synthetic I can get.

renchjeep Jan 16, 2016 07:35 PM

I have been running Mobil1 0w40 European Formula since buying my 2011 MCS hatch used at 22k, now at about 52k. Changed every 5k, with MINI genuine filters, by myself, most times on jackstands at home. Lots of folks here and on other MINI forums were recommending that oil, and I must say, so far, so good. Less than a quart used between changes. I buy the oil at WalMart. Cheap. IIRC, about $23.00 for the 5-quart jug. The OEM filters can be had in quantity on Ebay for about 11.00 each, and include a new crush washer for the drain plug.

4ringcircus Jan 16, 2016 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by renchjeep (Post 4164940)
I have been running Mobil1 0w40 European Formula...

Same here, I use it in my Audi and I just bought another jug for Mom's 'new-to-her' Mini. Wally also sells Castrol Edge 0w40 which I'll use if M1 is sold out, but I usually try to stay with the Mobil.

sub3622 Jan 16, 2016 08:57 PM

Used Motul full synthetic 5w-40 because of the warm weather but didnt like it and change to liquid moly 5w-40 full synthetic and the car runs smother even at cold start.

SpuuDy Jan 16, 2016 09:01 PM

Mini of STL told me to run penzoil 5w-30 full synthetic. So that's what I run. My local autozone was offering 5 quarts of oil and a free oil filter for 32 bucks. Now what I'm wondering is if after adding so much oil if you can just change the oil filter and it be like an oil change.

mini4mo Jan 17, 2016 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by renchjeep (Post 4164940)
I have been running Mobil1 0w40 European Formula since buying my 2011 MCS hatch used at 22k, now at about 52k. Changed every 5k, with MINI genuine filters, by myself, most times on jackstands at home. Lots of folks here and on other MINI forums were recommending that oil, and I must say, so far, so good. Less than a quart used between changes. I buy the oil at WalMart. Cheap. IIRC, about $23.00 for the 5-quart jug. The OEM filters can be had in quantity on Ebay for about 11.00 each, and include a new crush washer for the drain plug.

I'm doing the same thing.
The Mobil one is easy to get at Wally World and I just bought 5 genuine filters for 53 bucks on Ebay.

4ringcircus Jan 17, 2016 07:21 AM

(semi-OT) Are OE oil filters considered to be the choice or is there a high quality aftermarket alternative? Reason being, I purchased Mann filters for Mom's car because they've always served me well in my VWs, Audis, and Volvos. But I can see there are clearly some design differences in the Mann oil filter when compared to OE. Has anyone else used Mann OFs here? If so, any issues?

(Back on-topic) Probably 'old news' but....http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Everything you wanted to know about motor oil...and then some. :thumbsup:

bcriverjunky Jan 18, 2016 03:52 PM

I'm in the Mobil1 0w40 European Formula from WalMart club. Change every 5000

enoe01 Jan 18, 2016 04:38 PM

I have run Mann filters through my last three oil changes and no issues. I am not sure if K&N filters make any difference, but I Change my Mini's oil every 3,000 with Full Synth right now. I am trying to flush out any and all contaminants in the engine and it seems to be working better and better each time. My oil went form being black at 3000 miles to getting lighter each time!


Erik



Originally Posted by 4ringcircus (Post 4165019)
(semi-OT) Are OE oil filters considered to be the choice or is there a high quality aftermarket alternative? Reason being, I purchased Mann filters for Mom's car because they've always served me well in my VWs, Audis, and Volvos. But I can see there are clearly some design differences in the Mann oil filter when compared to OE. Has anyone else used Mann OFs here? If so, any issues?

(Back on-topic) Probably 'old news' but....http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Everything you wanted to know about motor oil...and then some. :thumbsup:


seandallen Jul 4, 2017 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by 4ringcircus (Post 4165019)
(semi-OT) Are OE oil filters considered to be the choice or is there a high quality aftermarket alternative? Reason being, I purchased Mann filters for Mom's car because they've always served me well in my VWs, Audis, and Volvos. But I can see there are clearly some design differences in the Mann oil filter when compared to OE. Has anyone else used Mann OFs here? If so, any issues?

(Back on-topic) Probably 'old news' but....http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/
Everything you wanted to know about motor oil...and then some. :thumbsup:

Purflux makes the OEM filter. Their stock# is L358A. You can usually find them cheaper than the MINI branded one.

I use Castrol 0W-40 European formula. Mobil1 doesn't have the BMW LL-01 designation.

I like mini clubman's Jan 22, 2019 09:08 PM

Old thread but a good one. Its winter again and time to ponder things lol.
I use amsoil Z-ROD in all my vehicles. 05 ram, 04 sebring, 09 mini, 77 colony park and 64 Cadillac. You can't run a new formula oil in a flat tappet cammed car and have the camshaft survive. A local engine builder won't use anything less than a high zinc oil when running an engine on the dyno. As far as I'm concerned our timing chains are similar to a flat tappet cams and the low zinc oil allows it to wear out quicker. But again talking about oil is like taking about politics.

bcriverjunky Jan 24, 2019 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by bcriverjunky (Post 4165544)
I'm in the Mobil1 0w40 European Formula from WalMart club. Change every 5000

I have switched to Castrol 0W-40 European formula.

f_p Jan 25, 2019 02:00 AM

Big story.
For the first 60,000km, I used the MINI spec Castrol oil (5w30). Change every 5-7,000km.
Then I jumped to the Castrol 10W60 and got rid of them in 2000km, as I had the impresion that the engine was having a hard time in morning starts.
Now, I am using the Liqui Moly Top tec 4100 10W-40, with LL04 specification (same as the one used by MINI). Super happy with that, oil consumption droped to 200-300ml per 1,000km.

tow hook Jan 31, 2019 10:03 AM

I use Castrol full syn. (5w20 as per the oil cap) switching over to mobil 0 w 40. car smokes a lot the 0w40 should help I hope.

MrGrumpy Jan 31, 2019 06:15 PM

On the recommendation of a Mini specialty shop in the area, I use Liquid Moly Leichtlauf 5w-40. They said it’s the best and are a lot smarter than I am. It seems to make the car very happy, runs nice and quiet. Quieter than the Royal Purple I used to use.

MrGrumpy Jan 31, 2019 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by I like mini clubman's (Post 4445870)
Old thread but a good one. Its winter again and time to ponder things lol.
I use amsoil Z-ROD in all my vehicles. 05 ram, 04 sebring, 09 mini, 77 colony park and 64 Cadillac. You can't run a new formula oil in a flat tappet cammed car and have the camshaft survive. A local engine builder won't use anything less than a high zinc oil when running an engine on the dyno. As far as I'm concerned our timing chains are similar to a flat tappet cams and the low zinc oil allows it to wear out quicker. But again talking about oil is like taking about politics.

That’s funny, I was just in a conversation about oil with guy I know, and he said that zinc added to oil will cause the chain to wear out faster, which is why he won’t use Liquid Moly, because it has zinc added. But you are saying the opposite. Being that the oil was recommended by a mini specialist, I use it anyway, but now I need the real deal on which one is correct? I’m more inclined to side with what you are saying, but now I just have to find out..... guess it’s time to do the google!

MrGrumpy Jan 31, 2019 06:44 PM

Wow, lots of info out there..... while I did find something about the zinc additive contributing to premature timing chain wear, it was an article about VW TDI engines. The rest of what I read was pretty much in agreement with what “I Like Mini Clubmans” wrote above. After reading a few, I would agree that our engines compare more closely with the flat tappet engines as opposed to the roller type camshaft engine. The consensus seemed to be that zinc is good in flat tappet and high performance or built engines, and the most important time to have increased zinc in a modern engine is during break-in, but still good to use for its life in the form of higher zinc oils like liquid moly and such. Very interesting reading, I’m going back in for more!

seandallen Feb 1, 2019 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by MrGrumpy (Post 4447512)
On the recommendation of a Mini specialty shop in the area, I use Liquid Moly Leichtlauf 5w-40. They said it’s the best and are a lot smarter than I am. It seems to make the car very happy, runs nice and quiet. Quieter than the Royal Purple I used to use.

+1. #MeToo

ECSTuning Feb 7, 2019 11:26 AM

I am running the Liqui moly also on both MINIs.

I like mini clubman's Feb 7, 2019 11:48 AM

I must had a weak moment, most of the time I won't post what brand of oil I use. I'll give a type of oil just not the brand. Manufacturers are usually pushing an oil for a reason, mostly to make money. Oil is oil is oil, the additive packages are what the difference is between them. Certain additive play havoc with and engines sensors and emmisions equipment. Manufacturers have to warrenty that stuff almost forever. They also want the most miles per gallon possible. You can't get that with a high tension or thick oil. I only use oil with a very high zinc content for all my vehicles. I also tailor the viscosity to the ambient temperature for the period following the oil change. I do all my own work.

as a side note I was testing oil pumps for a 496 ci Chevy. Certain oils could not be pumped cold or hot as it took more horse power than my drill press could put out at the lowest speed setting.

BigBoost Feb 7, 2019 12:05 PM

After install of
oil filter relocation
&
oil cooler
thinkinh about switching over to molly or royal purple
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...fe8d90cd8.jpeg

I like mini clubman's Feb 7, 2019 03:58 PM

Looking at your oil cooler engine adapter with four ports. Are the two forward facing ports for oil cooling? if yes, which one is out and what one is in? The reason i ask is that i bought an oil cooler adapter used and i don't know what side is hot and cold for the inline mechanical thermostat/

BigBoost Feb 7, 2019 05:26 PM

blue/green lines into remote filter houseing
Yellow oil drain from turbo
black coolant
red n18 oil pressure switch
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...e123812b9.jpeg


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