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Old Nov 15, 2014 | 11:24 PM
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Is it alright to use Ethanol free 102 Octane in my R53 ?

I live in northern Nevada and our town has a fuel station that sells Ethanol free, 102 Octane fuel.

Is it alright to use this fuel in my 2006 R53 ? ? ?

I don't want to damage anything since my Mini has never had a chance to ingest pure fuel with such a high Octane rating.

If any NAM members that are currently using Ethanol free fuel, with an Octane rating of 91 or higher please chime in on this topic.

I am guessing I could blend the standard 91 Octane fuel with Ethanol, with the Ethanol free fuel and maybe start to save my motor and fuel system from additional damage resulting from Ethanol.

So, lets hear those comments from those in the know on fueling the Mini R53.

Post your comments: Positive or Negative

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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 01:06 AM
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Zero ethanol would be the best. To "much" octane doesn't exist.
Here in Belgium the Cooper S has to use the super plus, yes I know you can also drive on the Super but the engine will have less power.
The carbon deposit on valves comes mostly from the ethanol in the fuel.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 07:24 AM
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do a little research


learn what 'octane' means


and what 102 octane is ....


and you'll answer your own question


search here and find MANY discussions
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 07:38 AM
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Unless you're tuned to require the use of high octane race gas using 102 will be a waste of money.

If you have a reduction supercharger pulley installed then higher octane can help in reducing pre-injection or knock but typically premium 91/93 octane fuels are sufficient for most applications.

EDIT: Today's engines and fuel systems are rated to use ethanol blended fuels up to a specific about usually 10%.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt_bj
do a little research


learn what 'octane' means


and what 102 octane is ....


and you'll answer your own question


search here and find MANY discussions
Try Google..
And make 100% sure it is lead free (not "low lead") fuel....
And 10% ethanol fuel is fine....so mixing it with pump gas, aka, e10 is fine....
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 09:43 PM
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So, the best overall answer would be to find 91 Octane unleaded fuel without any Ethanol.

Great, but try finding that anywhere close to where I live . . . . . . . .

Anyway, it was just a topic I thought I would throw out to everyone.

Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 02:53 AM
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Ethanol doesn't make a better fuel quality like lead did.It's a stupid "green" obligation.
Modern engines may use it but it will attack rubber and it forms easily carbon .The use of full synthetic oil and fast riding will lessen it.Here in Belgium the superplus has almost zero ethanol. The normal fuel has 5 %
 

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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 02:55 AM
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what is 102 going for these days???
 
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 05:03 AM
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I run a tank of 100+ octane/Ron every so often to clean out all that garbage ethanol in my fuel system. It will not hurt anything so long as it's lead free.

my car runs slightly smoother and I notice that heat has less of an effect on timing retardation. Ethanol is junk.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 05:26 AM
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unless you flip the percentages and run 85 percent Ethanol ( E-85 ) course the car has to be tuned for it...
 
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Old Nov 17, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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Ethanol (or methanol) is actually a great fuel from a high performance stand point.
 
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