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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Rod End Bearing (Heim Joint) life expectancy

Looking for information. I have an H&R coilover set-up and to achieve the proper toe and camber, have replaced the stock control arms with RDR adjustable control arms. These units have Heim joint bearings at each end. The $64,000 question is how long should a set of these bearings last before they start getting all loose and rattley? I plan on occasional auto-x / track use and daily commuting / street use. Am I looking at an annual (12,000 -15,000 mile) replacement or a more / less frequent need for new bearings?

I've seen three basic levels of heim joints,

1) Carbon steel: commercial applications

2) Chrome-Moly steel alloy: street, mild-track applications

3) Aluminum alloy: hard-track, professional racing applications

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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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When I had my suspension installed the tech said that I should keep an eye on the end links as they are "not the best". These were the H-sport end links. He said when they go bad to replace them with Aurora (?) heim joints.
How long will they last - I don't have a clue!
 
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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Thanks Mark,

Aurora is the brand I've just ordered in chrome-moly. I was also told that NHBB (New Hampshire Ball Bearing) and FK also make superior rod ends.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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i was under the impression that the H-sports with poly bushings would last longer than heim joints.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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I agree with discodan, that's why I got the H-Sport's since this is my daily driver. You can also get heim joints that have a teflon liner as a bearing surface. I think these also have dust seals.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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The difference between in poly and heim joints is precision. There are boots available for the heims to increase their life but your driving conditions will determine the life expectancy. I know we've had this discussion before.. try a search

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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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macncheese is right. i knew this sounded like a familiar conversation.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r+control+arms

i started that thread too, figures
 
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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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The heim joints, regardless of their quality will last "less than a dog in church" in street applications. Heim joints are designed for track use only, IMHO. They will develop slop, I am guessing at the first nice pot hole you hit.
 
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