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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Green Stuff Pads & a Weekend at the Track

OK, so I have swapped out the OEM pads for the EBC Green Stuff pads, great at cutting down the dust, street perfomance is improved, and otherwise very satified with these pads. How well will these pads hold up to 5 hours of track time over a two day period???? Will I need to replace the EBC's after the weekend at the track????
 
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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I've had two track days on my EBC green stuffs with crossed drilled rotors and they have held up very well. I'm not much of a trail braker and tend to dive bomb (late and heavy braking) and they have performed admirably. Towards the end of a session when they are wicked hot they require quite a bit of pressure but still grip very well.
Stainless steel lines and Motul racing fluid has made a huge difference too.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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It all depends how heavy you brake foot gets.

Originally Posted by paddy
OK, so I have swapped out the OEM pads for the EBC Green Stuff pads, great at cutting down the dust, street perfomance is improved, and otherwise very satified with these pads. How well will these pads hold up to 5 hours of track time over a two day period???? Will I need to replace the EBC's after the weekend at the track????
For light track use and driving schools the EBC greens are OK. It will depend on your own driving habits. How fast you drive will dictate how much you'll need to slow down for turns and for drivers in front of you.

For those who can match the speed of the car in front of them and stay steady and ahead of those behind them, watch your entry speeds going into turns and not mash on the brakes last minute, your brakes no matter which ones you have will be doing better and staying cooler longer. Repeated hard braking results in heat built up and brake fade.

We have several MINI owners that started with EBC greens and have since moved on to Ferrodo DS2500 track/street pads and are doing well for using them on light track and autocross. These pads handle heat better for light track.

I think you will do fine, just be sure to let your brakes cool off at the end of each session and use your cool down lap to "cool down". Watch your brake fluid and if you boil the stock fluid then upgrade to Motul or ATE superblue.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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My main interest is autocross with an occasional day at the track/driving school. My biggest concern was brake fade toward the end of a track session, but from the info passed on here, most of that should "fade away" after this weekend. Since this weekend I will be changing over to SS brake lines and putting ATE Super Blue in. I have already put EBC slotted & dimpled rotors on the front and the rear remain stock. Is there any real real to put a set of the EBC rotors on the rear, other than to have all four rotors the same???

What percentage of braking force do the rear rotors supply???? :smile:
 
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by paddy
What percentage of braking force do the rear rotors supply???? :smile:
8-21 % depending on the applicationof total braking force.

The rotors in rear and 100% responible for brake power. They are intended to be biased in that fasion. Concider a lesser friction material, like OE for rears.

Rotors can match, for cosmetic's sake. Or mabey a HAWK HPS front, with EBC rears.

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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Alex: Are Hawk pads available yet? I dont see them on the Tirerack website
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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Alex: Are Hawk pads available yet? I dont see them on the Tirerack website
Hawk HP Plus and HPS will both be available for MC's very shortly. Stay tuned!

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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Alex, would you recommend me just doing the front with Green Stuff and leave
the rear OE? Is that advisable or not recommended?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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Rears alone is unwise, fronts alone is great!

Ken -

Running greens up front makes total sense. The fronts do the majority of your braking, and inturn make a majority of the dust. EBC could help on both counts!

Alex
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Thanks, Alex.


I'll call you to order in a few weeks. :D

Ken

Originally Posted by Alex@tirerack
Ken -

Running greens up front makes total sense. The fronts do the majority of your braking, and inturn make a majority of the dust. EBC could help on both counts!

Alex
 
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Hawk HP Plus's will be the pad to get!
 
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