R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 NAM'ers help me out...I'm in a pickle...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 04:59 PM
  #1  
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S's Avatar
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 259
Likes: 4
From: Kansas
NAM'ers help me out...I'm in a pickle...

So to all those that do not know....I bought BOO back in November 2012, and after spending a boatload of $$$$ on her, (maintenance, and tires and alignment), and have also ordered the S drivers side rocker panel, another cost....Here she is on Ebay...(Item # 121064732922 ), before I lowered her price again.

I was going to spend another $1500-$2000 on her, making her my own, but have decided that I could for that money and BOO get another R53, or R52....Is this a wise decision, or should I just spend the money on BOO.

Let me know what you people think I should do, because right now I don't really know which direction to go with BOO.

Thanks snowman
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 05:39 PM
  #2  
beken's Avatar
beken
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 21
From: Delta BC, Canada
So...from one BEP to another, why are you selling your car? Are you simply trading for another R53?

If you have already sunk money into this car, and you get another, you do not know the history and what money you will be sinking into your next car. It could be another money pit. But then, it might not be.

If you bought this car with the intention of flipping it, you get no sympathy from me (sorry). I would buy the car I want, and enjoy it and get my money's worth out of it.

It appears to me the money you spent already is par for course for a car this old. Tires, alignments, clutch...you will spend this on any car this old. Oil pan gasket, power steering pump....seems to be something you will replace once and hopefully that's fixed. Actually, the general life of a fuel pump is about 8 or 9 years so that might be next. If you get another R53, you will likely be looking to spend on the same things all over again. If you get another car (any car) of the same age and generally the same specs, you will be looking at possibly doing the same things. I say, make this car yours. You've already done a lot of the maintenance required of a car this age anyways.

However, you could probably cut some costs, if you are not that crazy a motorer as some of the MINI drivers here. You could have considered your budget and bought maybe less expensive tires, join your local MINI club and get discounts on the parts, etc. Some dealer servicing, if you sign up for one of their (generally free) loyalty programs, they lower their labor rates and give you discount on parts. Their labour rates would be on par with the aftermarket shops. There are also aftermarket parts that are cheaper, but I would warn that you generally get what you pay for. The quality of the cheaper aftermarket parts are sometimes questionable, so shop carefully.

Look at your list of options. Every single one of them, if not properly taken care of, can break and cost money to fix. You are not looking at a bad unreliable car. MINIs are not economy "value priced" cars. They are a premium car even in the most basic form. From the repairs you've listed on your ebay post, they appear to be routine wear and tear, maintenance items for a car this age.

Hope I didn't sound like I was ranting. Good luck on your decision.
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 06:12 PM
  #3  
Braminator's Avatar
Braminator
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,242
Likes: 55
From: Wherever she takes me.
+1^ Well said.
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 06:55 PM
  #4  
ashchuckton's Avatar
ashchuckton
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 999
Likes: 10
From: Nunavut
+2 ^
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2013 | 07:06 PM
  #5  
dannyhavok's Avatar
dannyhavok
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,334
Likes: 4
From: Vancouver Island, Canada
Looks like sound advice to me. Besides, why would you want to trade such a nice R53 for an R56? Keep it.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:51 AM
  #6  
Eric_Rowland's Avatar
Eric_Rowland
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 47
From: Santa Cruz, CA
It's never financially smart to flip cars. The sales tax takes a big bite.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:10 AM
  #7  
msjulie33's Avatar
msjulie33
4th Gear
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 3
From: 95030
I've been looking for months for a BEP S w/o a sunroof, impossible to find. BEP in any form is a rare baby...
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:22 AM
  #8  
Enzof104's Avatar
Enzof104
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 163
Likes: 1
From: CT
I've read this a few times and still am trying to figure out why you would consider leaving this MINI to go to another one. Its seems there is more too it - maybe something about the car that bothers you - color, feel, performance... Maybe you have had so many problems that you lost confidence in the car - this is all understandable.

If not, and you really do enjoy this one, then it would be completely crazy to sell it now. With all the work done, you are running out of things that will need to be fixed. If you buy another, I promise you will end up fixing a lot of these very same issues.

I can relate to you however - I'm a similiar age and my R53 is not my daily driver. I simply bought it because I have loved MINI's since the minute I saw my first one and I could finally afford to have an extra car in my garage - I expected to put some money into a 10 year old car with 70000 miles (my numbers when I bought the car) but at first it seemed I was going crazy fixing things. For a time I thought about leaving this one but I would take a bath if I did. Now that I have spent several thousand dollars on the car, it is now MINE and will be for a long time. It runs better and looks better than when I bought it and most of the typical MINI issues have been resovled.

I say, ask yourself, why did you buy a MINI in the first place? Most people who buy something like this as a weekend car buy it for the fun of it. I say get on some runs and enjoy it. Spring is here! If a problem comes up that must be fixed, read a how to thread and see if you are up for the task.
if not, fix them as they come up. If you are wishing you could spend more on performance than maintance, upgrade as you fix. That is what I did and it has worked out very well for me.

Good Luck!
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 03:51 PM
  #9  
kazlot's Avatar
kazlot
4th Gear
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 557
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco Bay Area
NAM'ers help me out...I'm in a pickle...

I understand you're upset about all the repairs, but as others have said,now you can look forward to many more years of trouble free service.

Personally I think the step up to a R56 convertible is a bad idea because it's an early production build rather than a late production build like Boo.

You know what you have, why trade for something unknown.

Hope this helps...
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 04:52 PM
  #10  
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S's Avatar
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 259
Likes: 4
From: Kansas
So I have made up my mind, I am going to keep BOO.....spend a few $$$ on making her my own,,,,(change out the R/C car antenna to a stubby,....wheels, different seats, graphics, XM radio, all that jazz)....maybe go on a few runs, visit my local mini group 90 minutes away, and then next year trade her in on a lime green challenger R/T.....

THANKS everyone for your input, I have LISTENed to others and it means a bunch to me....Happy Motoring to everyone...
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:06 PM
  #11  
Braminator's Avatar
Braminator
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 7,242
Likes: 55
From: Wherever she takes me.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:07 PM
  #12  
beken's Avatar
beken
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 21
From: Delta BC, Canada
Originally Posted by msjulie33
I've been looking for months for a BEP S w/o a sunroof, impossible to find. BEP in any form is a rare baby...
The dealers in the Vancouver BC area know me and call me up sometimes because somebody saw my car and wants to buy it.

I thought I had the most recognizable MINI in the area until I saw another car exactly like mine except for the chrome mirrors and carbon fiber hood scoop.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 05:13 PM
  #13  
beken's Avatar
beken
6th Gear
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,203
Likes: 21
From: Delta BC, Canada
Originally Posted by Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
....trade her in on a lime green challenger R/T.....
With all due respect, as much as I like the looks of the Challenger, I've found in pretty well all circumstances other than a straight line drag race from a standing start (legally on a track, of course) my (slightly modified) MINI is the faster car.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:46 PM
  #14  
msjulie33's Avatar
msjulie33
4th Gear
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 317
Likes: 3
From: 95030
Originally Posted by beken
The dealers in the Vancouver BC area know me and call me up sometimes because somebody saw my car and wants to buy it.

I thought I had the most recognizable MINI in the area until I saw another car exactly like mine except for the chrome mirrors and carbon fiber hood scoop.
They must all be up north then!
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2013 | 11:30 PM
  #15  
Eric_Rowland's Avatar
Eric_Rowland
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 47
From: Santa Cruz, CA
Originally Posted by Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
So I have made up my mind, I am going to keep BOO.....spend a few $$$ on making her my own,,,,(change out the R/C car antenna to a stubby,....wheels, different seats, graphics, XM radio, all that jazz)....maybe go on a few runs, visit my local mini group 90 minutes away, and then next year trade her in on a lime green challenger R/T.....

THANKS everyone for your input, I have LISTENed to others and it means a bunch to me....Happy Motoring to everyone...
I might be in the market by next year, make a note. Struggled between IB and BEP back in 2005. Just in case, take good care of it 'til then.
Too bad you don't have the heated seats. I used mine big time when I went through (a blizzard in) Kansas! Not quite as useful in central CA, but still a nice-to-have.
I swapped out my Slites for Xlites due to weight, but I keep 'em in the garage with the all-seasons in case I go to the colder climes.
 
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2013 | 06:08 PM
  #16  
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S's Avatar
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 259
Likes: 4
From: Kansas
SO on a POSITIVE note, We are in need of a BIGGER family vehicle, so the mini now has to give way to a mid-size SUV...So it is back on ebay, I am going to take a loss, but right now I am having and wanting to do what is best for my child(ren)......Rather than trade it in at a STEEP loss at the FORD dealership, (they seemed to NOT care about the work, or money spent, even though I showed them the reciepts)...I would rather sell her at a SMALL loss to a fellow NAM'er. If this doesn't happen in the next 10 days to two weeks,....She will be traded off.

snowman
 
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2013 | 03:53 PM
  #17  
Frozone's Avatar
Frozone
2nd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
Originally Posted by Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
...but have decided that I could for that money and BOO get another R53, or R52....Is this a wise decision, or should I just spend the money on BOO.
Originally Posted by Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
the mini now has to give way to a mid-size SUV...


done and done!
 
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2013 | 06:00 AM
  #18  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,750
Likes: 2,545
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
BEP is very rare today, I hope someone gets it who appreciates that color. Its like the Solid Gold when they brought it back in R52 Convertible for a shot time, or even like the early Velvet Red.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2013 | 07:35 AM
  #19  
e93m3's Avatar
e93m3
2nd Gear
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 54
Likes: 1
From: Haverhill, MA
I bought my fiancee a countryman. We totally love it, I like to think of it as a small to midsize suv. It's quite the whipper snapper. I highly recommend getting one. Plus many are starting to come in after a 1 year lease.
 
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2013 | 05:42 PM
  #20  
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S's Avatar
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 259
Likes: 4
From: Kansas
Just thought I would clarify here, our family is going to get bigger here soon, and the mini isn't going to be practical in the VERY near future, that is why I have decided to let her go, and move on.

snowman
 
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2013 | 10:48 PM
  #21  
FredoinSF's Avatar
FredoinSF
6th Gear
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,154
Likes: 8
From: France and Reno/Tahoe
It's off eBay. Did you sell it?
 
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2013 | 02:56 AM
  #22  
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S's Avatar
Black-eyed-Purple-Mini S
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 259
Likes: 4
From: Kansas
No its still there, and yes still for sale
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PelicanParts.com
Interior/Exterior Products
7
Jun 7, 2025 05:56 AM
PelicanParts.com
Accessory Products
0
Oct 1, 2015 01:23 PM
Mini Mania
Drivetrain Products
0
Sep 28, 2015 09:13 AM
Mini Mania
Vendor Announcements
0
Sep 25, 2015 12:32 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:23 PM.