Started up my 2013 Cooper and found that it won't go above 4000 rpm in neutral--can't find anything in the owner's manual detailing this. Anyone know what's up with this?

Thanks--
Gary

 

Also limited when the car is in gear but not moving.....took it out and it runs normally. Gotta be a sensor telling the car it's not in motion, so limit the revs.....called the tech at the dealership and he said it's a new "feature" for 2013.

Gary

 

It's a safety item so you can over-rev and shove the transmission into gear.
This isn't a new phenomenon, my early 90's Oldsmobile had the exact same thing, but it was limited to 3000 RPMs.

- Erik

 

I am actually gonna love this thing, keep me from money shifting at the track, which is always a fear of mine.

 

My friend just paid close to $200 for a rev limiter on his '03 Cobra. Limit was set to 2800rpms. That thing really shot outta the hole. He's since sold it and bought a Hyundai Veloster. 😳

 

im sure its only for automatics

 

dont say that crush my dreams

I have heard about people with manuals talk about the rev limiter.

But in my 07 auto, the shifting was exactly 6.5k that it was great driving around the track, kept me in the power ban while performance driving.

 

Yup, another fantastic feature of the soul sucking automatic transmission. A rev limiter in neutral.

Rev limiter is just above 6200rpm on manual trans to prevent engine overspeed.

 

And it won't rev past 4000rpm when the car is stationary (see post #2).

 

confirm this is in a manual?

 

Yes, manual.

 

Wow that really ticks me off. Another electronic nanny that we didn't ask for.

So if the driver wants to double clutch and the rev-match speed is above 4000rpm, they have to have a messy downshift. Great work BMW.

Is this rev limit at 4000rpm in place when you're in gear and you have the clutch pedal pushed down?

 

Why would you need to rev it in neutral? And what would you want to have it go above 4000rpm.

Launching the car at that high rpm will just create wheel spin. And if you have an auto, there's no need to neutral drop the car.....

 

No it won't. If you money shift your car won't be in neutral, will it?

 

The transmission in your car has syncros, no need for double clutching. Quit watching fast and the furious.

 

Its only when in neutral and stationary that it won't go above 4K rpms.

I have a 2012...must mean this feature was implemented earlier then 2013.

 

Is this a joke, or just ignorance? It may not need a double-clutch, but rev-matching is crucial to not jerking yourself off of the road when downshifting.

 

There's absolutely no need to 'double clutch' when you're transmission has syncros and I said nothing to the extent of rev matching (which can be done with a single actuation of the clutch).

 

He was referring to a rev-match above 4k RPM - applies to both rev-match and "double-clutch."

 

That's not how he wrote it. Double clutching should not apply (if you are smart enough to understand there's no need for it). You're beating a dead horse.

 

good to know. 4k is enough for an autocross launch - actually it's just about perfect. one less thing to think about on the line.

(sounds good - we'll see when the moment arrives... :-) )

Cheers,

Charlie

Ps: going down to first on a pin turn I have doubled with the revs over 4k - it's rare but it happens once in a while. Hopefully the nanny does know the difference between neutral with the wheels moving and neutral while stationary. I'll put that on the test agenda for early spring just so I don't ever get surprised...

 

I'm just referring to if someone decided to do it. I always just push the clutch in and rev-match with heel/toe. But there is still the open question if the ECU limits speed to 4000rpm when the clutch is in. If so, screw the 2013.

 

I'm almost certain that's not the case....I can still rev match over 4k.

I just can't get my rpms over 4k when in neutral and stationary..(clutch is not pressed in)

Normally I don't even rev the car that high when stationary because its not
necessary....but my friend wanted to hear the pop and burble...that's when I discovered it wouldn't rev over the 4k mark.

 

I think we're all on the same page

 

Double-clutching? In a car with syncromesh cogs? Shouldn't you be heeling-and-toeing if you really need to rev-match?

Limiting revs @ 4k in neutral or while stationary and in gear would let you get a clean start off the line, wouldn't it?