Interior/Exterior DIY light bar?
The trick is getting it stable enough that you don't have any vibration with heavy lights, I've had several configurations over the years, buy the ALTA bar I have now has been the most sturdy with the lights so there's no vibration over minor bumps.
this is very easy to do, assuming you can weld.
Id recommmend aluminum, as it is stiffer than steel, not to mention lighter, and to make the brackets, its best to make them L bars (increases vibrational stiffness.
essentially copy the alta bar, and you will have a light bar for a fraction of the cost.
materials needed.
aluminum
tha ability to weld aluminum
aluminum tube of a high enough grade that you can tap it, or steel tube tapped on two ends, and the tubes are then bolted to the bumper brackets (normal aluminum will tear when you tap it if you do not have very good taps and the right grade of aluminum)
any other questions, just shoot me a PM.
Id recommmend aluminum, as it is stiffer than steel, not to mention lighter, and to make the brackets, its best to make them L bars (increases vibrational stiffness.
essentially copy the alta bar, and you will have a light bar for a fraction of the cost.
materials needed.
aluminum
tha ability to weld aluminum
aluminum tube of a high enough grade that you can tap it, or steel tube tapped on two ends, and the tubes are then bolted to the bumper brackets (normal aluminum will tear when you tap it if you do not have very good taps and the right grade of aluminum)
any other questions, just shoot me a PM.
The whole reason for me wanting to do this is that you can buy brand new hella 500s for around 50 bucks and I don't think that the alta bar with the lights is worth $400+
I have not herd of the VIP version
I cant weld aluminum. But I don't see which part would have to be welded? If you where to copy the Alta design you could use 2 sections of aluminum to mount to the bumper core support. Then you could reinforce those 2 pieces with a cross section that would tie the two together. All of this would be behind the lower grill section and out of sight when the bumper skin was mounted. This is where I think I could see some vibration and where it would be beneficial to be able to weld. But you could just use 2 long ish bolts that would stick out through the grill into the section where the lights would be mounted. I was planning on using aluminum for the whole entire assembly and after I would paint the whole thing black.
Its kind of hard to explain what I am picturing in my head
Nick
I have not herd of the VIP version
I cant weld aluminum. But I don't see which part would have to be welded? If you where to copy the Alta design you could use 2 sections of aluminum to mount to the bumper core support. Then you could reinforce those 2 pieces with a cross section that would tie the two together. All of this would be behind the lower grill section and out of sight when the bumper skin was mounted. This is where I think I could see some vibration and where it would be beneficial to be able to weld. But you could just use 2 long ish bolts that would stick out through the grill into the section where the lights would be mounted. I was planning on using aluminum for the whole entire assembly and after I would paint the whole thing black.
Its kind of hard to explain what I am picturing in my head
Nick
thanks
Nick
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I got these:
http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...-brackets.html
Unfortunately I have yet to get the actual lights working, so I'm not sure if it vibrates much. They seem very solid. You could probably make something like them yourself and mount them in a similar fashion. I did find installing them a little harder than I had expected, but it'd probably be very easy for those who know the way of the wrench (this happened to be my first mod).
http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...-brackets.html
Unfortunately I have yet to get the actual lights working, so I'm not sure if it vibrates much. They seem very solid. You could probably make something like them yourself and mount them in a similar fashion. I did find installing them a little harder than I had expected, but it'd probably be very easy for those who know the way of the wrench (this happened to be my first mod).
Yeah, I didn't want to spend much either, but I am incapable of manufacturing any suitable DIY bracket (so I just bought 1 set of brackets, but am really happy with the look).
I was just trying to give you some ideas for how a bracket could mount if you are able to make one yourself. You could probably make a very simple one and screw it directly into the bumper mount (which the out motoring bracket mounts around). I would think you just basically need to make a sturdy L shape and screw it in. Then again I'm sure the wrap around design of the outmotoring bracket is to reduce shake, so...
At this point it should be fairly obvious that I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just going to shut up now.
I was just trying to give you some ideas for how a bracket could mount if you are able to make one yourself. You could probably make a very simple one and screw it directly into the bumper mount (which the out motoring bracket mounts around). I would think you just basically need to make a sturdy L shape and screw it in. Then again I'm sure the wrap around design of the outmotoring bracket is to reduce shake, so...
At this point it should be fairly obvious that I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm just going to shut up now.
This should work
It's about time... planning on getting few things done on the car, tie rods, ebrake, fog light, thermostat, ..., thinking while I am at it, it wouldn't hurt to add one more thing on the weekend list. The truth is, I really got fed up about the weak head lights from factory and everyone around here drives trucks with their lights turned up a notch or two... so here is the DIY plan on installing a quad lower grill rally light bar, similar to the Palo Uber.
So far in the garage, I got 1/8 thick, 1-1/2" and 2" sides and 36" long aluminum angle beams ($13, $15). Left over IKEA Grandtal double bar towel racks (2x $6.99). 8mm x 50 and 60mm bolts. The beams and rack mounts are pretty sturdy. I am banking on the beams are long enough for the lower bolts on the bumper back plate - appears to be just about right, so I don't have to get longer ones and cut. Also banking on the perpendicular "lips" on both side of the bumper back plate to be even for the angle beam to rest on, so I don't have to pad with square tube spacers. Other than that, get 4 x 500FF ordered, wait until the weekend and measure and drill. The IKEA rack mounts will have one extra hole drilled on the bottom to have an additional secure point to the angle beam.
This plan is captured in the attached photo, hope all goes smooth, may not have the lights by this weekend, will come back and share results when it is complete.
Cheers.
-X
So far in the garage, I got 1/8 thick, 1-1/2" and 2" sides and 36" long aluminum angle beams ($13, $15). Left over IKEA Grandtal double bar towel racks (2x $6.99). 8mm x 50 and 60mm bolts. The beams and rack mounts are pretty sturdy. I am banking on the beams are long enough for the lower bolts on the bumper back plate - appears to be just about right, so I don't have to get longer ones and cut. Also banking on the perpendicular "lips" on both side of the bumper back plate to be even for the angle beam to rest on, so I don't have to pad with square tube spacers. Other than that, get 4 x 500FF ordered, wait until the weekend and measure and drill. The IKEA rack mounts will have one extra hole drilled on the bottom to have an additional secure point to the angle beam.
This plan is captured in the attached photo, hope all goes smooth, may not have the lights by this weekend, will come back and share results when it is complete.
Cheers.
-X
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