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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 06:36 AM
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MD Tires For Life Lawsuit

Well, time is running out and I have to decide whether or not I want to join this Millenium Tires For Life lawsuit against the Maryland dealers.

Wondering what other people affected by the lawsuit are doing.

In my case, I paid $2500, never got a replacement set and only got one $500 flat tire replaced. According to the proposed settlement, I'm entitled to $1000 in vouchers to a dealership I never want to see again and that I can only use in $300 increments. What a joke.

My hope was that I could approach the dealer and plead for logic and just get one set of tires replaced without joining the lawsuit. That's all I'm asking...one stinking set of tires. But my wife is thinking that since this is entangled in the courts, the dealer won't talk to us.

Not sure it's worth it but do I join the lawsuit hoping for a better settlement if this one is rejected?

So, I'm wondering what others are doing. Are you joining the lawsuit and accepting the terms, rejecting the terms or are you not joining at all?

I'm leaning towards joining the lawsuit but rejecting the terms.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 06:44 AM
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Dude, what were you thinking? $2500 for tires?

Seriously, the dealer would be a complete idiot not to accept that settlement. Once he has you guys in there he can "find" all kinds of other supposed problems and even if only 20% opt to have him do the work, he's making out. Don't know what you could do as an individual, but this deal is preposterous.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:00 AM
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Well, my tires are close to $500 a pop so all I had to do was make it to 25,000 miles and the plan would've just about paid for itself. Unfortunately, the company providing the tire coverage went belly up before I could get my one set in to justify the contract.

Took a chance and it backfired. That's life I guess. Lesson learned, trying to minimize the damage now.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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All in all, you're currently out $2000 of the premium you paid since you received $500 back and after the settlement, only out $1000. Not bad considering Millenium went bankrupt. If I were you, I'd take the $1000 voucher assuming you can use it for more than just tires. You can get better tires for around $150 each...why blow $1000 on a set? A voucher can get you parts or services if you're out of warranty. You can always sell your voucher at discount to local people looking to buy MINI parts from your dealer.

Also, I doubt the dealership will deal with you separately since there's a lawsuit. I deal with situations like these all the time in my line of work.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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Another case of the dealer screwing the customer.
Someday there won't be any customers.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vollgas
Another case of the dealer screwing the customer.
Someday there won't be any customers.
I wouldn't blame the dealership on this one. Sure, dealerships might have received a kick back from the insurance company for selling their policy but they're two different entities. I think the dealership is having to take just as big of a hit as their customers as they are now entitled to pay for the failure of another company.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Lemme ask you something Vollgas, where do you buy new cars?

A dealership, right?

Have you ever been screwed by one? Cause I sure haven't, and if I was it would be shame on me for letting them do it.

I sure would like to see this "stealership" and "the dealer is just out to screw me" stuff stop.

A dealer nor any other business can "screw" an educated informed buyer, and if you're not going to take the time and effort to inform and educate yourself, then who's fault is it if you lose money?

A dealer is not out to screw their customers, they don't stay in business that way. A dealer - like any other business - is out to make money, as much as possible off of every customer, it's up to you whether they make it on you or not.

If they sell products or services that you think are not a good buy, don't buy them. Others might have different circumstances or see things differently. The OP certainly did in this case. Your constant negative opinion of what the dealer does to someone else smacks of sour grapes to me.....

"Build a bridge and get over it"!
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Evasive
I wouldn't blame the dealership on this one. Sure, dealerships might have received a kick back from the insurance company for selling their policy but they're two different entities. I think the dealership is having to take just as big of a hit as their customers as they are now entitled to pay for the failure of another company.
Actually, according to the lawsuit, the dealers are to blame in this instance.

The company selling the tire warranty (Millenium) didn't have any type of insurance on the policies they were selling. This is in violation of Maryland law that states that it's the dealer's responsibility to ensure that all warranties are insured.

I'm not a lawyer but that's my understanding of the genesis of the lawsuit.

The details of the suit can be found on post #47 of this thread if anyone is interested.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=249311&page=3

(see page 24 of 67, item #61 for claims)
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by geeks
Actually, according to the lawsuit, the dealers are to blame in this instance.

The company selling the tire warranty (Millenium) didn't have any type of insurance on the policies they were selling. This is in violation of Maryland law that states that it's the dealer's responsibility to ensure that all warranties are insured.

I'm not a lawyer but that's my understanding of the genesis of the lawsuit.

The details of the suit can be found on post #47 of this thread if anyone is interested.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=249311&page=3

(see page 24 of 67, item #61 for claims)
I would read the entire document but I have too many contracts to review at my own job From your statement, I'm guessing that the lawsuit is pointing the finger at the dealership because Millenium is no more. If Millenium was still around, I think you would find that people would be going after them. Instead, they're going after the next best thing.

As far as my statement, it's more to prove that the dealership isn't necessarily screwing anyone over as Vollgas stated. They may have failed to do their due dilligence before contracting with Millenium, but I would guess that's more negligence rather than trying to screw someone over. If the penalty for not verifying that the warranties are insured is a $1000/customer settlement then so be it. But let's not blame dealerships too quickly...as much as I don't trust them myself.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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I don't much care for the stealership term either. No I don't work for one.

There are so many consumers that are uniformed. They buy something & find out later they paid too much or bought a needless product or service. They get pissed & the dealer is now a stealer even though they are not.

Be informed. Let the buyer beware. Knowledge is power.

Back on topic, yes I would climb on that class action band wagon. You get something although it is not what you paid for & not a full refund. Better than nothing. We all know who makes out in this deal the ______.<fill in blank with your choice.
 

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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by geeks
Well, my tires are close to $500 a pop so all I had to do was make it to 25,000 miles and the plan would've just about paid for itself. Unfortunately, the company providing the tire coverage went belly up before I could get my one set in to justify the contract.

Took a chance and it backfired. That's life I guess. Lesson learned, trying to minimize the damage now.

What kind of tires are you buying for 500 dollars a pop??!!
 
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by martinb
What kind of tires are you buying for 500 dollars a pop??!!
Stealership tires proof that I'm not biased
 
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Old Apr 9, 2011 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by martinb
What kind of tires are you buying for 500 dollars a pop??!!
They're Dunlop Sport runflats. TireRack has them for $350ish each. Add mounting, balancing and whatever other expenses there are, I guess that's what drives up the price. The one flat I got fixed wasn't $500 exact but more like $470 +/-.

I love the tires I have but they seem to be overpriced considering TireRack has so many other tires that rate higher for a lot less. I'm giving up on having the dealer replace my tires so I guess if I'm buying my own tires, I'm going to have to look into another, cheaper brand. Time to start researching.

BTW, thanks for all the useful advice and comments. I really do appreciate it.
 
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