Who runs these?

Thoughts?

 

Decent high performance all season, This tire will be superceded in the spring (re970), and comming out at a 17" mini favoring run flat. Strengths in water and snow. A close 2nd to the Michelins in dry.

Alex

 

That sounds good enough for me. I've heard too many stories about Michelin's getting LOUD after 10K or so and not lasting as long as others, so those are out. But I live in the NW so rain/wet is a fact of life up here so I need something that does great in the dry, and good in the wet.

Will look for the 970's and see what the cost is for non rft vs rft.

Thanks for the info Alex!

 

Big fan of the RE960AS...

From my comments here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-south-fl.html
I had Bridgestone RE960AS on my previous car – ’04 VW R32
I saw very little, if any, drop in performance in ‘around town’ or spirited driving use.
I came from Hankook 212(?) and Falken Rt615 tires, but since I was no longer autocrossing, changed to the Bridgestones.
Tire Rack rates the Contis a bit better than the Bridgestone, but it was categories that meant a bit less to me that swayed the overall rating.
The Bridgestones ranked better in cornering stability, dry traction, and steering response.
I had the Bridgestones for approximately 20K miles.
The performance was still very good and there was plenty of tread left.
Tires were a bit narrow so I’d upsize: 205/55-16 or 215/45-17.
Good luck.

 

Thanks for the post AAONMS, that's why I'm leaning towards the BS's. I've read a lot of reviews on the DWS about soft sidewalls, and that just won't do =)

And I already have upsized tires, so I'll stick with that route.

 

Alex@tirerack, do you know when the 970 is due out and what the pricepoint will be compared to the 960?

Thanks.

 

Bridgstone has commented 2011, but hasn't specified when in 2011. I'd expect similar pricing to the 960's . We shall see...

 

i'm curious. what's been said about this upgrade to the 960, the 970.
does michelin or conti have plans for their UHP soon?

 

Thanks Alex

jrcsh6, usually it's just an upgrade in design, new tire compound technologies, etc.

 

You may want to hear this review of All Season UHP tires: Click on the test tab and watch the video. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....PPXL&tab=Sizes

 

From my original post: Tire Rack rates the Contis a bit better than the Bridgestone, but it was categories that meant a bit less to me that swayed the overall rating.
The ‘categories that meant a bit less to me’ are the snow/winter so the RE90AS is the best choice for me in my application.
I’m none too concerned about snow, but am more focused on below 40° F temperature performance on the Winter side while sacrificing as little as possible from the overall performance in non-winter application.

 

What AAOMNS said. Seattle doesn't get that much snow, mostly rain. I've read several reports on the DWS that they get LOUD after 10K or so, and you really only get one winter season out of them before the "S" portion of the tire is gone. Couple that with many reports of soft sidewalls, and I'm going to stick with the Bridgestone.

The link you posted is a good reference, but so are the consumer reviews with higher mileage, THOSE are the ones that I read, those are what tell me "will I still like this tire in a year or two". I plan on having a dedicated set of winter wheels for next winter for when I really need them.

And I'm choosing an AS UHP tire over a summer tire mainly for the treadwear rating and the treadlife warranty.

 

Please post the links to your other reviews. I think that would be helpful. Remember the review was for only 1 season i.e. 1 out of 4 but 1 snow season of "S" is better than no season I think.

 

All you have to do is search tire reviews by car (Cooper S in my case), sort by brand, and then by model of the tire. You'll see all the reviews for the tire.

 

Thinking of getting these. Which size is the best for 17", and is the oversize noticeable in day to day driving?

 

i've had them on a c class. great 3 season tire. not the greatest in snow. not as grippy as the conti dws in rain/snow but better in dry i think. definatly a stiffer/sportier tire. i'd suggest the 215 width for more rubber on the road. i doubt you'll actually "feel" any difference though. maybe 215.45.17 the sidewall ratio is totally up to you. higher for softer. lower for stiff.

 

I think I've decided to go summer tire with a dedicated winter set.

 

the only reason i'd suggest these over a dedicated summer tire is if you live in an area with weird seasonal changes. for example. indianapolis got snow today and was 45 yesterday. days a good all season is nice to have a bit more grip than otherwise.

 

Seattle doesn't get a lot of snow, just a lot of rain, which a good summer tire should handle without issues. Hence my reason behind not getting an AS tire. But I'm still waiting until the 970 comes out and has some testing of it to see how it does, if it's half as good again as the 960, I may get it.

 

This is exactly what I'm looking for. I already run a dedicated winter tire on separate rims. I've had two sets of HP summer tires and, besides them wearing very quickly and being noisy after one summer, we get enough weird weather changes up here to not really make HP summers all that worthwhile.

 

SuprCoop - if you are giong dedicated Summer - then you should check out both the Yokaham Advans & Dunlop Direzza Star Specs (unless you highly value tread wear ... in which case these may not be a good fit).

I am running the Direzza Star Specs in the Seattle area - and am quite impressed with their wet traction performance (not on the car now - but will be some time in April). My favorite aspecs of the tires are ultimate grip and turn-in response. The Yokahama has better overall rating in TireRack's reviews, but the price of the Star Spec is unbeatable (may even change your mind about tread wear)

 

Ditto.
Waiting to learnhow the 970 fares to see whether or not it will be my choice for a replacement when the current tires need to be replaced.

 

I'm sure they'll surpass the 960, and as good as it is, the 970 should be awesome. I saw a pic of it, and it has larger tread blocks so it should do a little better in snow, and hopefully dry as well.

 

Just installed the 960 on my Clubby 3 days ago. Switching fron the OEM runflats. I got the 215/45R17 at Costco (amazing price by the way) and what a change. Wow!! Ride is less harsh. The tires stick in curves like they are made of glue. I haven't run them for long. But very satisfied with the choice. Let's see on the long run if they last and keep being good :-)

 

I upgraded three years ago from the stock 195-55R16 Conti runflats to NON-runflat 205-55R16 RE960AS Bridgestones, and ABSOLUTELY loved them: they were solid performers, comfy and quiet on the highways, great on the twisties, and always held, even in crappy weather.

I do a lot of long-distance drives each season, rotate every 6-7K, and watch pressures religiously. The lifetime rating was for 40Kmi. I got 33K out of them until this week, when they showed I was down to 3/32 on all of them, uniformly worn. That includes hard use in the Black Hills, the Ozarks, and at the Dragon those three years.

I'd buy another set in a heartbeat, except (a) they're being discontinued except in runflats, and (b) the 970s are actually $30 cheaper, each. I haven't heard a bad word yet about the 970s -- but tell me if I'm wrong.