Brake Fluid????
For a street car that is just a daily driver the cheapest is the Valvoline synthetic brake fluid. You can get it at any NAPA or Advance Auto
If you need something to do autoX or even track days the Motul RBF600 is great.
If you need something to do autoX or even track days the Motul RBF600 is great.
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So what's the best way to prevent my brakes from smoking after a canyon run? 
Had a GMR run with my buddies this past Sunday, and on the way back down i was pushing the car hard and riding their butts. For the first time, I literally got out of the car and watched as the smoke rised from my front brakes.
Good times!
Had a GMR run with my buddies this past Sunday, and on the way back down i was pushing the car hard and riding their butts. For the first time, I literally got out of the car and watched as the smoke rised from my front brakes.
Good times!
For a street car that is just a daily driver the cheapest is the Valvoline synthetic brake fluid. You can get it at any NAPA or Advance Auto
If you need something to do autoX or even track days the Motul RBF600 is great.
If you need something to do autoX or even track days the Motul RBF600 is great.
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As I understand it, the single most important feature to brake fluid is the amount of time it has been in the car. Since DOT IV fluid is hygroscopic (absorbs water), the main contributor to fade is absorbed water, which boils and turns to steam, causing pedal fade as you are now pushing against a compressible gas vs a non-compressible fluid. (the entire system doesn't boil, but you get the point)
When I was in the MBUSA club, local track tech inspections included verifying that the brake fluid was no more than 6 months old. If the fluid is fresh, then I would expect differences in dry boiling points would be the next most important factor.
HTH,
When I was in the MBUSA club, local track tech inspections included verifying that the brake fluid was no more than 6 months old. If the fluid is fresh, then I would expect differences in dry boiling points would be the next most important factor.
HTH,
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Is it the Motul or the ATE that comes in two different colors?
When we bled one of the club member's we used the blue, it was very easy to tell when you had clean fresh fluid via the color change. Next time you use the gold for the same reason, when you have a complete color change, you're good to go.
When we bled one of the club member's we used the blue, it was very easy to tell when you had clean fresh fluid via the color change. Next time you use the gold for the same reason, when you have a complete color change, you're good to go.
One quart.
Is it the Motul or the ATE that comes in two different colors?
When we bled one of the club member's we used the blue, it was very easy to tell when you had clean fresh fluid via the color change. Next time you use the gold for the same reason, when you have a complete color change, you're good to go.
When we bled one of the club member's we used the blue, it was very easy to tell when you had clean fresh fluid via the color change. Next time you use the gold for the same reason, when you have a complete color change, you're good to go.
Ate typ200 = amber
They are both the same fluid.
So what's the best way to prevent my brakes from smoking after a canyon run?
Had a GMR run with my buddies this past Sunday, and on the way back down i was pushing the car hard and riding their butts. For the first time, I literally got out of the car and watched as the smoke rised from my front brakes.
Good times!
Had a GMR run with my buddies this past Sunday, and on the way back down i was pushing the car hard and riding their butts. For the first time, I literally got out of the car and watched as the smoke rised from my front brakes.
Good times!
Better brake fluid
Better brake pads such as high temperature pads
Better rotors with directional vanes (not straight vanes)
Bigger rotors (and thicker) for mass
Bbk
Brake ducts
Or a combination of the above
I would recommend number 1 and 2 first.
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From: Tempe AZ
What's smoking? Smoke has nothing to do with brake fluid. If you have a super soft and long pedal from overheating that's fluid related. Brake smoke is just from the pad- I do that just bedding pads.
I believe it was just the pads..I think around the last 1/4 mile i noticed the abs start to kick in a bit.
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Pad fade vs fluid fade.
Pad fade nets a relatively solid pedal but no stopping. If ABS is functioning then that's all she wrote anyhow relative to the tire torque of course.
Fluid fade is when the fluid is overheated and develops air pockets in it making it compressible so the pedal becomes long and soft feeling.
All just fwiw.
Pad fade nets a relatively solid pedal but no stopping. If ABS is functioning then that's all she wrote anyhow relative to the tire torque of course.
Fluid fade is when the fluid is overheated and develops air pockets in it making it compressible so the pedal becomes long and soft feeling.
All just fwiw.
Pad fade vs fluid fade.
Pad fade nets a relatively solid pedal but no stopping. If ABS is functioning then that's all she wrote anyhow relative to the tire torque of course.
Fluid fade is when the fluid is overheated and develops air pockets in it making it compressible so the pedal becomes long and soft feeling.
All just fwiw.
Pad fade nets a relatively solid pedal but no stopping. If ABS is functioning then that's all she wrote anyhow relative to the tire torque of course.
Fluid fade is when the fluid is overheated and develops air pockets in it making it compressible so the pedal becomes long and soft feeling.
All just fwiw.
I have run multiple full 1/2 hour track sessions with ate in the advanced and iinstruction groups at places like WGI, LRP, summit point, vir in July without problems. I do have tce plus 3 BBK. I have also run motul without issues.
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So what's the best way to prevent my brakes from smoking after a canyon run?
Had a GMR run with my buddies this past Sunday, and on the way back down i was pushing the car hard and riding their butts. For the first time, I literally got out of the car and watched as the smoke rised from my front brakes.
Good times!
Had a GMR run with my buddies this past Sunday, and on the way back down i was pushing the car hard and riding their butts. For the first time, I literally got out of the car and watched as the smoke rised from my front brakes.
Good times!