I have also heard that some racers run platinum backing plates to insulate the brake pads from the rest of the "fluid" braking system. I have not used it but was wondering if anyone has and with what results.

PS: Stock brake pads / street pads / AutoX pads typically run up to 600-800 degrees F, then they smoke/fry.
I run Carbo XP12s which are good to 1600 degrees F and have seen them smoke once (only a little after full 1/2 hour run at wgi). And like howsoon mentioned, these are noisy, grindy and dusty.

 

Titanium. Stainless if on a budget. Both offer good heat rejection/reflection.

 

I will ping you later to talk about one set for your TCE plus 3 BBK with FSL calipers.

 

I don't have any Ti plates cut for the FSL right now but can do them. You're looking at roughly $100 btw.

 

How thick are these backing plates?

 

Actually the CT AX6 might be better for GMR and still a street pad. AX6 has a 1150f heat range while HP Plus is only 800f heat range. GMR or Glendora Mountain Road is an infamous canyon road near Los Angeles. Where you'll often see 20-60 cars on any given midnite hour.

Custom High Heat Rejection/Reflection Baking Plates!!!
Tell us more? JCW size?

 

For all of you Motul users out there......try the Brembo LCF600 fluid instead, it's a few dollars cheaper and tested out higher, with slightly higher dry and wet boiling temps. That being said, Motul is great stuff, the Brembo is just better stuff......( Snapple anyone???) However, I don't think this guy is looking for a performance fluid, and with the higher moisture absorption issues of the performance fluids, an OEM fluid might be the better choice in this case.

 

XP12's are actually rated to 1900 def F.....f.y.i. Not being obstinate, just accurate.

 

No issue. I only check till 1600 degrees f and if I run over that, I should relearn how to brake properly.

Driving track is about your technique as well as knowing how to preserve the car.

 

The friends that use them tell me that they use these ti plates to insulate the really hot pads and rotors (above 1500 degrees) from the more heat sensitive parts of the braking system such as the much lower boiling point of the brake fluid). I am intrigued as well and any added safety is important when you are going into a turn hot.

For me, I am not a fan of autox Pads for anything other than autox due to their design. They tend to fry under sustained moderately high heat If you intend to run hot for over anything more than 10 minutes, I would suggest going to real track pads, perhaps XP 8s for the front to start. I have seen the aftermath of using incorrect brake pads, or in uses that it is not intended, and it is not pretty.

One thing I found about ct pads is they don't seem to bake into the wheel finish as much as other high temp pads for those that are concerned about immaculate rims.

 

Can you post the chart. I have been looking for this info. I talked to CT quite often and they always have been a little vague about this.

Thanks.

 

On their site they state that the XP12's temperature range is 250°F to 2000°F+.
http://www.ctbrakes.com/brake-compounds.asp

 

Thanks. I appreciate the link. I just took a look at it. Was wondering if there was a chart showing the temp versus friction.

 

So I put new street pads (CarboTech AX6) and rotors (MINI OEM JCW) on all 4 side noticed that my front baking plate both rusted, warped, "blued" and very brittle, I accidently cracked one of them. I still used them anyway but plan on changing them. Any more info and prices on Ti and SS baking plates for R53 JCW pads? TIA

 

Howsoon,

I think TCE can make the backing plates in either TI or SS. He mentioned about $100 for a pair but I am not sure of the thickness. They go onto the back of the brake pad between the pad and the caliper piston.

Many of my friends who have these bought them from www.tispeed.com.

 

Thank for the link

 

I have been looking at these for a while. Not sure that the standard .5 mm is up to what I need it for but it does more easily fit with new brake pads. I am thinking of stacking two sets when there is enough room, rather than getting the double thickness

I talked to my friend Porsche Bob who runs a 997 GT3 and he has used them but says it only is partially good for heat, especially with the standard thickness. If you are on the edge of boiling the fluid, it could help. If you are a really hard braker, I think you may need a larger mass rotor and DVs.

 

I've had great luck with Motul for frequent track use. If you are tracking your car constantly or doing testing days where your car will see 3-4 hours of track time in a day then Castrol SRF is a pretty good choice because it requires bleeding less often than other products.

I stay away from ATE super blue because it will stain your reservoir.

 

It looks like they come with 4? Not sure?
Run one .5 plate with new pads, then as pads wear out run two .5 plates making it 1.0 thick.

 

Yep, they come with 4 plates as a set, you will need two per side, two sets to double up. Are you thinking of getting them too?

 

Yep staring at their website right now. Alot of the testimonials say their rubber piston dust cover does not burn anymore after applying Ti plates. And Calipers stay red, the lower half of mine are maroon. Two sets would make even pricier. They say we can get any size we want? What size would be good for both new and more used pads?

 

My original calipers also changed color as you describe. Also my new brake rotors already have a bluish tint. Not sure I trust the testimonials so I have started asking around last year. The direct feedback at the track seemed a little more mixed with many saying it is more for additional safety than correcting an issue such as frying brakes.

I think they allow customization so you can get different thicknesses but I am not sure of the cost.

I think they may do a group buy. So I will be trying to get a few track maniacs together then talk with him. Not sure if you are interested. I think we do not have to get the same pad for the gb.

 

I just ordered them right now. I got free Priority shipping, when you sign up for their email list. Read nearly all their site, you can get any custom size of thickness or any caliper/pad set-up, just 2-3 week turn around. Give them a call see if you can Group Buy with different pad sizes. I just figured I need them asap, cause mine are shot.

 

Did you get one set or two? Standard thickness of .5 mm?

Do let us know how it works. Track season for me is not till May so I have some time to get these things. Meanwhile, I will connect with a fee trackies to see if they are interested in a gb.

Glad it all worked out for you.

 

Yup, just 1 set of Ti shims standard .5 thickness. Since I missed MINI Thunder 2, I will prolly do 1 more winter track day here at Laguna Seca, to see if I notice any difference.