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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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IE camberplates

Just trying to gain some knowledge here. I highly doubt I'll get to track the car. How much of a difference would the fixed camber plates make to the car? and how much would I expect to pay for an install?
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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A big difference! Put them on myself and then had it aligned so can't tell ya how much the labor would be. If you haven't done anything else and want to make a big difference in handeling you should start with a larger rear sway bar. The neg camber will also wear your tires quicker. 2 cents.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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It would make a difference! Not a hard install, may want to try and do it yourself. After you have done it have it realignment done, I would guess youneed one anyway! So it couldnt hurt!
 
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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I'd be getting the installation done at a tire/suspension shop so they'd just do the alignment right after install. I wouldnt be capable of doing the install myself haha. Minimarks I have a 19mm hsport sway bar see my sig, but thanks for the info haha.

Edit: This won't be happening for awhile. I'm saving some money for it though.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:59 AM
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pros: more front end grip, less tire wear and better feel through the steering wheel.

cons: may cause a bit of NVH to be introduced into the cabin
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jcap287
I'd be getting the installation done at a tire/suspension shop so they'd just do the alignment right after install. I wouldnt be capable of doing the install myself haha. Minimarks I have a 19mm hsport sway bar see my sig, but thanks for the info haha.

Edit: This won't be happening for awhile. I'm saving some money for it though.
Sorry, didn't look at your sig, sounded like you were just getting started....
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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The camber plates would also reduce the mushrooming issues. You will need to rotate tires every 5K to get the best wear and tire life.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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I disagree with this one. The fixed camber plates from Ireland use a rubber mounted bearing from a BMW Z4 I believe. After installation the ride seemed even smoother with no added NVH and others have experienced the same.
Steve

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cons: may cause a bit of NVH to be introduced into the cabin
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I would suggest that you put a couple hundred miles on the car after install to allow the plates and rubber around the bearing to seat in before the alignment.
As also mentioned this is the best way to protect against mushrooming with the support from the bottom.
Steve

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I'd be getting the installation done at a tire/suspension shop so they'd just do the alignment right after install. I wouldnt be capable of doing the install myself haha. Minimarks I have a 19mm hsport sway bar see my sig, but thanks for the info haha.

Edit: This won't be happening for awhile. I'm saving some money for it though.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Sorry, didn't look at your sig, sounded like you were just getting started....
It's alright haha
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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I disagree with this one. The fixed camber plates from Ireland use a rubber mounted bearing from a BMW Z4 I believe. After installation the ride seemed even smoother with no added NVH and others have experienced the same.
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I would suggest that you put a couple hundred miles on the car after install to allow the plates and rubber around the bearing to seat in before the alignment.
As also mentioned this is the best way to protect against mushrooming with the support from the bottom.
Steve
Thanks for the advice..


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The camber plates would also reduce the mushrooming issues. You will need to rotate tires every 5K to get the best wear and tire life.
That's the other reason I want to get them is to reduce mushrooming.



So no one thinks I should go with the adjustable? I figured they'd only be worth it if I was going to track it.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Adjustables are great (TSW ) but expensive and don't have much cushion. IE's are sorta OEM plus and will get you a lot better track times. I wound up with 2.3 degrees negative camber with them and 2.3 is 2.3 adjustable or not...now the cushion will have some deflection though. Best=well made adjustables, very good = IE fixed. One reason I got the IE's is that I plan on coilovers down the road which would have adjustable CP's and these were a good inexpensive way to get the benefits now. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 12:42 PM
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You can also get another .25 to .05 neg in camber by adding a set of TSW Springs to the IE fixed plates.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Ah ic I doubt I'll do coilovers. I'll probably just go with the fixed when I get the money.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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This is some very helpfull info.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Ah ic I doubt I'll do coilovers. I'll probably just go with the fixed when I get the money.
You'll be very happy but be careful until you get used to it, the front end will not push out near as much and the rear end really rotates around better which could cause you to end up going the wrong way...
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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I disagree with this one. The fixed camber plates from Ireland use a rubber mounted bearing from a BMW Z4 I believe. After installation the ride seemed even smoother with no added NVH and others have experienced the same.
Steve

yes, i apologize, i forgot that these were IE plates. I said "may introduce NVH" cos some do and some don't (like the IEs)...

my bad
 
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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So, how long does it take to install? maybe I can guesstimate a price range. I'm just trying to figure out how I much I have to save because I still need to install my catback when I get it for xmas and that'll be at least 130.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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Can be done in less than an hour. Expect to get charged for two hours.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Is anyone running the Madness MINI Cooper S Polyurethane Rear Suspension Bushings, rear trail arm bushings, or front control arm bushings? what kind of difference would they make to my stock steup?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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The aftermarket stuff has blown up even more! I look forward to messing with another 1st Gen MINI S. Must ....Hold Out ...Gotta .....find the right 2005 Jet ...Black MINI ..... MUST HOLD OUT!
 
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